Just was wondering if the +p loads in 45-70 are too much. Was thinking on getting one of these, and don't want any dangerous situations to occur due to the higher pressure. 45-70 would be a dandy hog buster in east Texas!

I predict you'll give up LONG before the gun does.... those are pretty light and I'd bet it'll kick the living crap out of you.

If you're gonna reload, check the Hodgdon #27 manual.... SAAMI spec for the .45-70 is 28,000CUP, not the more sedate 20,000CUP or so that most RemChester ammo is loaded to (to keep people from blowing their Trapdoors to kindom-come).

28,000CUP in a .45-70 is more potent than most people realize, over 2,000fps with a 300gr. bullet, and a bit under 2,000fps with the 400gr. bullets.

And yes, if you think it's rough on the shooter, wait till you see what it does to the pigges :D

Just was wondering if the +p loads in 45-70 are too much. Was thinking on getting one of these, and don't want any dangerous situations to occur due to the higher pressure. 45-70 would be a dandy hog buster in east Texas!


I have 4 different 45-70 guns. A Shiloh Sharps, Remington Rollingblock, Marlin 1895 and an Encore pistol. I do not see the need for hot 45-70 loads on hogs. A slow and heavy bullet will go right through them. I shoot blackpowder in my Shiloh and Rollingblock with a 500 to 550 gr. bullet going about 1150 fps and they pass right through deer. I load smokeless in my Marlin and Encore, but I load them in between the high and low side, about mid way, and they will bring down anything it hits. I just don't see the need to punish your self if a lighter load works just fine. But to each his own. If you like the hot go for it, just keep within the load data and you should be just fine. :)

They do chamber them rifles in the .270 win and Magnums. Mike is correct you'll give up first. I'm not the real recoil conscious guy and I had a old 158 H&R with 28" bbl and the rem factory loads I got with the gun I shot 15 of them before I gave up and tore the rest down and reloaded them with 33gns of RX7 and 300gnrs. Mild but very accurate in the old gun. Now your NEF is of modern design and will take more than you will want to, one shot at a pig after the load developement is done okay but Redhawk is right no sense to it the 45-70 is more than a match for any hog.

If you check the Garret Cartridges website below two of their hottest loads are listed as for the NEF (H&R) rifles. That makes the newer NEF/H&R actions level 2 capable. Best BIG bang for the buck IMHO. Though as stated by others even the factory 300 grain Remington load will drop the biggest pig like a lightning bolt hit 'um. Even this load in a lightweight NEF rifle can hurt cha if you're not prepared.
http://www.garrettcartridges.com/products.asp



Just was wondering if the +p loads in 45-70 are too much. Was thinking on getting one of these, and don't want any dangerous situations to occur due to the higher pressure. 45-70 would be a dandy hog buster in east Texas!

Your best to keep loads in the safe for Marlin range of about 40,000 CUP and under. The H+R/NEF rifles come in three different 45/70 versions. The basic Handi rifle with hardwood stock with recoil pad and 22" barrel, the same rifle comes in a synthetic stock, and the Buffalo Classic comes in a checkered walnut stock, with a 32" barrel, case hardened frame, and butt plate. All three come with iron sights. The BC's sights are a Lyman globe front with inserts, and a Williams ramp style rear peep. I've owned a Marlin 1895G, and still dom own the H+R Buffalo Classic and both are very strong guns, capable of handling more load than I care to shoot. The basic 405 grain Remington loads run about 1350 FPS, and are more than a match for any hog you'll find. This is a trapdoor load, and will run under 28,000 CUP, the lever action loads run up to 40,000 CUP, and the modern rifle loads( for Ruger #1) will run up to 50,000 CUP. If you stick with the Trapdoor, and the lever action load ranges you'll be on safe ground, and have all the gun you need.
Don