Oven Gets Hot, Woman Gets Shot
Mon Mar 29,10:37 AM ET Add Oddly Enough - Reuters

SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - A Texas woman heating fish sticks was shot in the leg by a gun that had been stashed in her oven, police said.

Roxanne Perez, 29, was taken to a local hospital where she was in good condition, police said Friday.

They said a friend of hers had hidden the .357 caliber handgun in the stove two weeks earlier without telling her after she told him no guns were allowed in her house.

When Perez heated up the fish sticks she also heated up the gun, which caused several rounds to be fired. One hit her in the leg.

No charges have been filed because the shooting was accidental, police said.

Hmm. Where would be a safe place to hide a gun containing bullets that are packed with gunpowder, which in turn is highly explosive? I know, the OVEN. BRILLIANT

I read stories like this from time to time and I have to wonder if these "accidental" shootings are for real or just some way of covering up something that sounds even worse (or more stupid) than hiding a loaded gun in an oven.

I also wonder how many "hunting accidents" actually are! But that's just me, I guess.

Kanuck
Yeah, and the guy that shot him doesn't cry but his wife is all upset.

I read stories like this from time to time and I have to wonder if these "accidental" shootings are for real or just some way of covering up something that sounds even worse (or more stupid) than hiding a loaded gun in an oven.

I also wonder how many "hunting accidents" actually are! But that's just me, I guess.


Yeah, I wondered that too!

I do know that a fire can cause ammo the go off. If several rounds fired at the same time in a revolver, it should be damaged beyond repair. A round in the barrel chamber would fire straight but the others in the cylinder would damage the handgun and go "who knows where".

But also notice how the the "several rounds" was described - It didn't say they went off at the same time??? I would hope any investigators would properly sort this out!

That's what you get for heating fishsticks without a license. Had it been my mother-in-laws oven it would have been the odor of melting & burning tupperware.

You know, the more I think about this, the more and more I'm convinced its a farce! A 600 degree oven will not set off a round of ammo - maybe a gas oven where the flame directly contacted the round but with the round protected in a gun and certainly no electric oven with the round in a gun! Maybe the whole story was planned for April fools day?

Obviously it is another URBAN LEGEND passed around the Internet by the anti-gun crowd to show how "dangerous" it is to have guns in the house.

On a similar note though, 30 years when I was in high school, our German Teacher, a wonderful man who had left Germany before WWII and fought for the US went through the entire war without being wounded. Once home he was shot by a bullet that had ended up in the burning barrel as he was disposing of trash. It hit him in the leg. More validation of the comment about heat from flame being able to set a bullet off. (Plus anyone heating up items in the oven are probably going to have the heat set about 300 (mine won't even go to 600!)


You know, the more I think about this, the more and more I'm convinced its a farce! A 600 degree oven will not set off a round of ammo - maybe a gas oven where the flame directly contacted the round but with the round protected in a gun and certainly no electric oven with the round in a gun! Maybe the whole story was planned for April fools day?

Obviously it is another URBAN LEGEND passed around the Internet by the anti-gun crowd to show how "dangerous" it is to have guns in the house.

On a similar note though, 30 years when I was in high school, our German Teacher, a wonderful man who had left Germany before WWII and fought for the US went through the entire war without being wounded. Once home he was shot by a bullet that had ended up in the burning barrel as he was disposing of trash. It hit him in the leg. More validation of the comment about heat from flame being able to set a bullet off. (Plus anyone heating up items in the oven are probably going to have the heat set about 300 (mine won't even go to 600!)

Oops! That is 30 years AGO... It didn't really take me 30 years to get through high school. (Of course, after all these years, I still haven't learned to proof read before submitting messages!)

I heard of one several years ago about a guy who did the same thing, stashed the gun and forgot about it. It went off and destroyed the oven, but he was okay. The embarassing thing about it was, he was the local Chief of Police! :eek:
He decided it was such a dumb thing to do, he suspended himself for several days. :rolleyes:
As to the temperature needed to set off a round, I'd bet it's well below 600, probably more like 350, maybe less. It's not the powder that ignites, it's the primer, and as volatile as that stuff is, it might be as little as 250 to set one off. Anyone intrepid (or curious) enough to test this? Set a primer on a baking sheet, and slowly jack up the temp until it goes off. I'm betting around 300 degrees or so, you'll hear a bang!
PJ

I've already used the dishwasher to clean a carburator - no more experimenting with household appliances for me!!!

Hopefully one of the bachelors here will take up the challenge... :D

Maybe we can sucker the guys from Mythbusters on Discovery Channel into doing it

oven??????????? I know microwave..........MikeG, did it clean the carburator?

Yup, worked great!

I don't know about you guys, but everytime I heat up the oven I check to see if anything else is in there, I hate melting a handle off a good pan. Only did that once.
Halfbreed

Hmm. Where would be a safe place to hide a gun containing bullets that are packed with gunpowder, which in turn is highly explosive? I know, the OVEN. BRILLIANT

WOW! I BETTER MOVE THAT 5 LB KEG OF BULLSEYE I HID BEHIND MY BOILER.

Rule number one for explaining EVERYTHING people do on this planet is : All people are stupid and will do stupid things. That means all of us.

Sometimes stupidity is painful. This one... I dunno. Just gonna shake my head and wonder what kind of friends this lady has.

I put a shotgun primer in a fire once to see how long it would take I was about 16 at the time and lost patience after the first 15mins it took about 25 I think it did go bang after a while.

I've already used the dishwasher to clean a carburator - no more experimenting with household appliances for me!!!

Hopefully one of the bachelors here will take up the challenge... :D
i once cleaned rifle casings in my wifes washing machine, it worked pretty well

Looks like the auto ignition temperature for primers is relatively low. According to Remington's primer MSDS, section 10 Conditions to Avoid, it lists temperatures above 266 degrees F. Normally, this info is in Fire Hazard Data. In this section, Remington claims "May ignite if heated to 250 deg. F. If I remember correctly, fish stikks bake at about 400 deg. F. Could Happend.....if yer a red neck......Here's yer sign.....

Speaking of primers going off in a fire...
Many years ago my father was a Scoutmaster. One evening as he and his Scouts sat around a camp fire, dad reached into his coat pocket to discover two shot gun shells, one loaded, one fired. Dad removed the loaded one and then mused (in a voice just loud enough that all could hear, "I wonder what would happen if I threw this in the fire?"
After allowing sufficient time for all the boys to get a good look at the loaded shell, he switched it and threw the empty into the flames, then jumped up and ran a few steps from the fire. He had a hearty laugh as he watched the boys tip their chairs over in their haste to flee into the dark away from the flames!

Speaking of primers going off in a fire...
Many years ago my father was a Scoutmaster. One evening as he and his Scouts sat around a camp fire, dad reached into his coat pocket to discover two shot gun shells, one loaded, one fired. Dad removed the loaded one and then mused (in a voice just loud enough that all could hear, "I wonder what would happen if I threw this in the fire?"
After allowing sufficient time for all the boys to get a good look at the loaded shell, he switched it and threw the empty into the flames, then jumped up and ran a few steps from the fire. He had a hearty laugh as he watched the boys tip their chairs over in their haste to flee into the dark away from the flames!

i've got to remember that one for the newbies at camp...