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alyeska338
04-30-2004, 10:42 AM
I am convinced that it is extremely unwise for any man to hunt elephant, buffalo, or rhino with a gun of less than .450 caliber. A light rifle simply will not stop a charge. While I was on a hunt in Southern Tanganyika, I met a Dutch sportsman named Lediboor who was very eager to get an African elephant. The man came from Java and had shot several Indian elephants. He proudly showed me his gun -- a .405 caliber he had used with great success in Ceylon.

I told the man frankly that his gun was too light for African big game. All African animals, even antelope, are remarkedly tenacious of life. They will take punishment that would quickly finish off Asiatic, European, or American game animals. But it is one of the hardest things I know of to try to convert another hunter to your way of thinking. He will listen politely and then, whether rightly or wrongly, will continue to cling to his own belief. Lediboor had shot elephant in India with his .405. Therefore the gun could stop African elephants.

A few weeks later, Mr. Millar, a tsetse fly research official in the Kilossa district, happended to pass my camp and told me that Lediboor had been killed by his first elephant. Lediboor had sighted a herd and climbed a tree to get a better shot at them. He dropped one and feeling very elated, started toward the beast. The elephant was only stunned. He leaped up and charged Lediboor. All that Mr. Millar could say was that judging from the mangled remains, Lediboor had not suffered.

from Hunter by J.A. Hunter

MikeG
05-01-2004, 07:13 PM
Reminds me of a quote regarding which animal is the most dangerous to hunt - something along the lines of:

You hardly ever hear about anyone being *wounded* by an elephant.....

think about it!

kdub
05-01-2004, 08:24 PM
Being the wuss I am with heavy bore rifles, still and all - a .50 BMG chambering would be my idea of an adequate elephant gun!

JAGG
05-06-2004, 09:17 AM
Some years back they used to show on PBS how the Pigmys used to hunt elephant with either a large headed spear or with a large smooth bore flint lock ! It took 2 to 3 of them to carry and fire the gun ! They got very close also and they got to eat the elephant ! JAGG

BigBoomer458
05-24-2004, 02:53 PM
Just curious, Did he(Lediboor) have a PH with him, and if so, what was the PH doing? (Obviously not his job)

alyeska338
05-24-2004, 03:00 PM
As I read the story, which I believe occured in the 20's or 30's, was that there was no PH. Just Lediboor off to take an African Elephant.

Selous had the same thing happen to him several times (though he did live without the elephant actually getting to him) after shooting, and either just missing the elephant's brain or the bullet not penetrating deeply enough, using a 4 bore rifle. Selous actually had one cow elephant to walk off during the night after he had shot her twice through the lungs, then twice at point blank range in the head as she lay on the ground. He was sure she was dead, but she got up and walked off during the night.