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viper1
05-15-2004, 11:49 AM
Is the 40 witness suppose to drop the clip and slide stay back when you empty the clip? Just bought a new one and it dont do either.

MikeG
05-15-2004, 12:54 PM
I'm not aware of any handguns that will eject the clip automatically, and the only rifle that comes to mind that does this is the M1 Garand.

Not all handguns leave the slide locked back after the last round, but most do. Get a manual if you don't have one. If it's not staying back, the magazine follower may be the problem (has to push up on the slide stop after the last round is ejected.

kciH
05-15-2004, 04:55 PM
Did you clean the pistol before you took it out to shoot it? Sometimes the packaging gunk can prevent the slide stop from working properly. The slide should stay back after the last round is fired, and it should stay back until you release it, whether or not the magazine is removed. I haven't owned one of these for about 2 years, but I'm certain that was how it worked.

viper1
05-15-2004, 04:59 PM
The witness I have isn't staying back when it's empty. I checked the manual and it said it should. Is this a problem I can take care of?









i did do a quick clead but the brassserebed dirty and some scratch's on them

tarheel catfish
05-16-2004, 07:37 AM
do a clean and check the follower in the magazine to see if it extends far enuf to activate the slidestop

ribbonstone
05-16-2004, 07:48 AM
do a clean and check the follower in the magazine to see if it extends far enough to activate the slidestop

With the gun field stripped (slide off the reciver) can insert the magazine and look in from the top and watch the follower and slide stop interact. Idea is that a ledge on the follower contacts a projection on the slide stop, and lifts the slide stop into place. The the follower isn't in the right place or the projection is too short, it's a no go.

Check to see that the slide stop if fitting all the way up against the frame...having it set out a bit has the same effect as having a short projection.

Clean the slide stop well...make sure it pivots easily.

M1894
05-16-2004, 09:39 AM
Viper 1

The Magazine will not completely release from the grip, as there is a spring that puts tension on the back of the magazine, so it will not drop free. It was designed that way. I releived the tension on mine, and the magazine drops free when the mag release is depressed. As to the other problem, check the slide release for full insertion, and see if other magazines will hold the slide back. if not it is as catfish said either the slide stop is too short, or the follower in the magazine is too low or the magazine is full of gunk, Sometimes the top of the follower is too wide and will not allow the follower to come all the way to the top of the magazine. I had that problem with a Browning HP.

Lee L.

papajohn428
05-16-2004, 08:16 PM
I have the same gun, and no problems except with an aftermarket mag, the rest work fine. I'm betting the mag is the problem. Is this the mag that came with the gun? If so, they may have changed suppliers, call them and ask!

PJ

DAVIDMAGNUM
05-17-2004, 04:47 PM
I have the same gun, and no problems except with an aftermarket mag, the rest work fine. I'm betting the mag is the problem. Is this the mag that came with the gun? If so, they may have changed suppliers, call them and ask!

PJ

I also have an EAA Witness in 40 S&W and it will not function with aftermarket magazines. With the factory mags, never a jam or mis-fire, the slide locks back after the last round and the magazine can be dropped with the slide locked back.

Also, if your pistol was purchased used or anyone has one that has been fired alot I highly recommend Wolf extra power replacement slide and firing pin springs!!

ribbonstone
05-17-2004, 08:08 PM
Made me think...if it's not an original mag. or if its a 9mm mag. being used as a .40 (which usually means the lips have been bent out a bit), then it's probalby not going to trip the slide lock. Mine is an old one, and the 12round mags never have given me any trouble.

BUT, I did have one of the early two piece slide stops...and the lever part did become loose on the pin, so the bugger would flip itself onto lock whenever it felt like it. A call to EAA and they had the new one-pice slide lock on the way that day.

AND...it broke the barrel. Again, one of the first 40's and the barrel broke at the caming groove...the replacement was current production, beefier and of a better design. Other than the frist few 40's produced, this shouldn't be a problem.

AND the old one shot about 8" high...front sight not dovetailed in, is one piece with the frame. HAd to get out the torch and weld the front sight higher...so welded it a LOT higher and added a adjustable rear to go along with it....so had to refinish the slide.

AND...accuracy sucked. The replacement barrel was better, but didn't fit nearly as well at the muzzle...no bushing, so the slack couldn't be taken out that way. 1" back from the muzzle, drilled the slide for two set screws. At lock, set the screws for contact with the barrel...tried it a few times, tweaking here and there and contouring the screws for a better match to the barrel...got it shooting well and locking up tight. Soldered the screws in place.

So...after a boat load of work, the thing shoots surprisingly well...not going to win many bullseye mathcins with it, but it shoots into 3" at 50yards
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Right about the spring set...but get the set, both the firing pin sping and the recpoil spring (and get a heavier mainspring while you are at it...the main spring probably does more to slow the slide as it unlocks than the recoil spring...slide has to cock the hammer early in the auto-loading cycle).

HadEmAll
05-19-2004, 06:59 PM
"Is the 40 witness suppose to drop the clip and slide stay back when you empty the clip?"

Have you read the manual?