CANNES, France (AP) -- U.S. filmmaker Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11," a scathing indictment of White House actions after the September 11 attacks, won the top prize Saturday at the Cannes Film Festival.

"Fahrenheit 9/11" was the first documentary to win Cannes' prestigious Palme d'Or since Jacques Cousteau's "The Silent World" in 1956.

I suspect there isn't one American that voted in favor of this award that has made any contribution to our freedom(s) other than the freedom to hire the best tax lawyers to pay little or no taxes. (my last sentence doesn't make any sense, but I don't care....I'm just tired of these hot dogs)

Dan

It's a Leftist/Socialist party, held in France! Why expect anything else? :rolleyes:

Hey, maybe the French folks will keep him there, and raise standards on BOTH sides of the Atlantic! ;)

PJ

If the world is against us, and most of it is, so be it. I am proud to be an AMERCIAN. Those that hate us are invited to take a long walk off a short pier. They can judge, convict, slander, hate and do what they do. I remain PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN.

Bill

To keep the thread firearm related - never cared much for the MAS-36 bolt gun, and have never figured the French could make a firearm ever since they tried to palm off the Chauchat "machine gun" on US troops in WWI.

European countries relish having the US in a bad light, just want our bucks over there and for us to stay home, especially the French.

Since they pulled out of NATO to go their own, I think we should let them strictly alone - alliances, economy, aid, security, diplomatically - the whole ball of wax.

I think this is firearms related as is...it speaks of a director who produced one of the more distorted peices of trash about the second amendment that has ever seen the light of day in a major way.

Personally, I'd like to see Mr Moore go give a big hug to one of those "little sheet heads" (see zeppy's joke in the humor section) that's wearing an explosive belt.

I believe that the unwashed M.Moore suffers from a condition that is pandemic in the entertainment world, acute cranial rectosis.

I believe that the unwashed M.Moore suffers from a condition that is pandemic in the entertainment world, acute cranial rectosis.
I believe that most of Europeans dislike us because of plain old Envy.They wish for Us to fail in something.
Moore is part of a demographic group who crave a loose life,without any responsibilties. That group perceives the present Administration as an enemy to that lifestyle.
Responsible ownership of firearms is abhorrent to them
Just Opinion,
Frank

I thought Bowling for Columbine made an interesting point regarding the level of fear running through this country. His shortcomings were the cheap shots and twisting peoples words around. Also, grilling Charlton Heston (who obviously is suffering from Alzhiemers) was a little unfair.

The premise of his movie wasn't about banning guns, it was about fear.

Moore has an agenda. Its good that he is around to shake things up a little. I don't alwas agree with his point of view but, he brings a new level of debate to the table and get's people talking about the issue. That's very American. If that pill-popping hypocrite Rush Limbaugh can pontificate unchecked, there needs to be a space for Mr. Moore. This is as American as it gets.

I find it insulting that President Bush tried to use 9/11 as a campaign vehicle. I am a gun owning Republican and he has done little to impress me. I might switch camps on this one provided the republicans keep a majority in the house.

For the record, the next rifle I buy will be a Browning BLR .450 Marlin. This brand of rifle is very good and smartly priced. I already have it in a 7mm-08 caliber. I'm getting the thicker bullet because I hunt in Maine.

I don't know if Mr. Moore has ever been to Maine.

I agree with Kdub!! There was precious little appreciation 60 years ago that they didn't have to start speaking German as a primary language, and it seems little has changed. Let them float their own boat. I have a friend in the tree service that refuses to buy french climbing gear even though he considers it to be the best around. Just have to cast our vote on that film using out wallets.

One odf the premises of our country is free speech. Personally I think moore is an idiot and needs to shut up, but he does have the right to his opinions. You will note he fills the media role well and always takes the same stance. Its not the ones who speak out you need to watch, its the quiet ones.

Per Pat Henry"I disagree with what he says but Ill defend his right to say it", and no Im not willing to die for him. He is an idiot after all.

Don't let it bother you. I know that I couldn't care less what that fat-butted jelly-eating doughNUT of a guy thinks, and that goes for the untire country of France and the Canne's Film Festival also.

He's not an idoit when it comes to getting national attention for his projects. I don't think I'll be going to see the movie though. I'll wait until someone rents it on DVD or something.
It raise the bar too high when I try to figure out which American citizens I'd be willing to die for. The right to free speech and the freedom of information act are two amazing things about this country.

Michael Moore has a point he's willing to bend the truth to make. Those without guilt...

I grew up in a house with guns and was taught they are not playtoys. I own guns and feel the same way.

I live in a city (Boston, MA) which is pretty tight about handguns and whatnot. Here, I feel a little like a criminal for going through all the hoops. I don't know what the violent crime rate involving guns is but, whatever. These precautions are not set up for people like me, with nothing to hide, but; the person who really does not have a responsible atittude towards gun ownership. I take my upbringing for granted. So, the hoops are there to keep me safe from those with no gun training whatsoever.

That being said, I am moving.

Interesting idea Mr. Kaneko, do you think the hoops you jump through as a law abiding citizen keep the violent criminals from gaining access to firearms?
There are pre-existing laws against violent crimes of any kind. Criminals are not concerned about registering thier weapons. The only people "tight" restrictions affect are those who follow the law.

P.S. I'd back Limbaugh any day over Moore

You're right about the crimials using guns thing. I don't agree with the tight policy but I understand the motivation. It is more than clear that the Police chief does not want guns in his or her town.

The criminals who use guns are dangerous but, the goon who thinks all there is to owning a gun is loading and pointing it is even more dangerous. I take the education and experience with guns for granted. There are those people who have no idea what safe handling really is. They scare the heck out of me. It's the accidental death from guns that is more prevelant. Accidents don't happen, they are caused. My mother always said that. It's true.

Limbaugh and Moore are pretty much cut from the same cloth: the entertainment industry. Its good to get people talking.
The folks over in Iraq are starting talk. It's easy to forget we've never experienced the kind of government Saddam Hussien ran. Our troops are over there trying to create an atmosphere where change can occur.

Why anybody to the right of Carl Marx would concern himself with the winners of the Cannes film contest is a real mystery to me.

If you worked in the entertainment industry, you would care very much.
In terms of politics, oy veh!

Would imagine folks in the entertainment business are few and far between here on the board.l

That being the case, would further imagine most could care less what the Cannes award people think or don't think. As Mr. Wagner so succiently put it - only pinko commies care what they award.

Don't think there's many of them on the board either.

It isn't about gun control, it is about control. It isn't about one way of life being better than another, it is about control. It isn't about the liberal minded artsy fartsy folks being smarter or more correct than the down to earth folks, it is about control. Each segment of society wants to control all the other segments and have everyone believe, think, and act the same way they do. And I, as a gun owner, am somewhat guilty of that myself since I'd like to see guns become as normal and prolific as ink pens. And I engage in activities of many kinds that would further my agenda of making guns a normal part of everyday life.... just like anti gun people engage in activities that would ban guns from everyday life.

I have a girl friend who dotes on those elitist ******** who think they are special because they are in the entertainment industry, or because they are "artists", or because they are rich and wear fancy clothes and drive expensive cars and attend things like the Cannes Festival. She and I get into some heated discussions about Mikey Moore. She thinks he is special since his film won this award while I think he is a self serving jerk who twists reality into his own version. She also judges movies by what some critic rates it while I decide if I want to watch it solely on content.

What does all that mean? Nothing at all. My girlfriend has the RIGHT, guaranteed by the same Constitution that I believe in, to think what she wants and to say what she wants.... the same as I do... the same as Mikey Moore does. My girlfriend, Mikey Moore, anti gunners, tree huggers, anti war demonstrators, gun owners, concealed carrying gun owners, hunters, fishermen, and myself, all have the same RIGHTS to further their own agendas.

I don't have to like what other people think or say or do....... but if I am to live what I believe the Constitution says then all those other people have the same RIGHTS that I have. Anything less is hypocracy on my part. However, I also have the RIGHT to thwart their agenda while furthering mine. A RIGHT that I most certainly exercise as often as possible.

I'm not sure I used good judgement in contributing the original post and at the risk of being a party pooper, am closing this thread. I'd like to thing that a reasonable assortment of opinions have been expressed and the subject, whatever it was, has been adequately covered.

Dan