This was in this mornings paper.
Front page Fort Worth Star Telegram is on the web.
There was a long article on these 50 lb coyotes that are showing up in the White Rock Lake area and the Garland area. Less then 10 miles from downtown Dallas

The game warden trapped this one.

They are very aggressive and about 30-35% bigger than a standard coyote.

They are testing to see if they have cross bred with dogs.

My old bowhunting club had some experienes with Louisiana Red Wolfes about 25 years ago along the creeks in Palo Pinto County but the game warden then told us that there were only a few left.

If these start showing up on our lease, I might need to "re-think" using the old 22-250 and start using a '06

Thought it was interesting.

Hmmmm..... predator on steroids! Half a dozen of those could quite the adversary.

Interesting stuff!

tpv those are really big dogs. Is there a lot of coyote hunting in your area? Wonder if they can be called. Our coyote population is excellent here in Idaho and there are enough that don't have a PHD yet that calling is effective.

Boy that close to Dallas a dog that big could be a real threat to a small or medium sized child.

It's all the housecats they are eating... lots of protein!!!!

Man, that's a big 'un!!

Coyotes are going to have to grow flippers to survive down here, if we get any more rain. At least my Labs seem to like it.....

tpv those are really big dogs. Is there a lot of coyote hunting in your area? Wonder if they can be called. Our coyote population is excellent here in Idaho and there are enough that don't have a PHD yet that calling is effective.

Boy that close to Dallas a dog that big could be a real threat to a small or medium sized child.
We hunt for the dumb ones too.

This time of year, I have cabin fever and the coyote pups are still learning. Its a good time to go.
I used to varmint hunt a lot then we became inundated with all of these hogs so I go to my stand and flip a coin to see if I wait for the feeder to go off for hogs or I crank up the varmint call for dogs.

I don't always call them in. Everything needs to be just right, but I did get four in from the same spot last spring. They were all pups, but I would shoot and call, over and over and they kept coming.
It was fun but that's not the norm.
Good Luck

We hunt for the dumb ones too.


We always hunt the SMART ones. That way the dumb ones are easy!

Drifter

Tom -

Kdub, here -

Think you might have a few of those Super Coyotes out on the lease?

Will see if the 6mm-284 will get their attention!

Ken

I had a deer lease for several years near Strawn in Palo Pinto county. There were plenty of deer and coyotes there. The coyotes did serious damage to the goat and sheep buiness there.

My grandfather used to hunt Lobos in West Texas around the old family ranch near Canyon, Texas. They were very large wolves in the 130 pound range. There is a great short write-up on this in the Texas handbook. By the time he left the ranch the wolves and Lobos were basically eradicated.

They did a lot of damage to the cattle herds and were an ongoing target for ranchers out there. Apparently there are few to none in Texas now. I always wondered about his storied about the difference between a coyote, wolf, and Lobo. History indicates that his stories about them were correct. Some of other stories were a bit wilder.

I had a deer lease for several years near Strawn in Palo Pinto county. There were plenty of deer and coyotes there. The coyotes did serious damage to the goat and sheep buiness there.

My grandfather used to hunt Lobos in West Texas around the old family ranch near Canyon, Texas. They were very large wolves in the 130 pound range. There is a great short write-up on this in the Texas handbook. By the time he left the ranch the wolves and Lobos were basically eradicated.

They did a lot of damage to the cattle herds and were an ongoing target for ranchers out there. Apparently there are few to none in Texas now. I always wondered about his storied about the difference between a coyote, wolf, and Lobo. History indicates that his stories about them were correct. Some of other stories were a bit wilder.
My family is from Strawn. I have hunted on about every acre surrounding that town. North and South along Hwy 16, The Gordon area, Necessity, even Lake Tucker!

That's where we had our first encounter with a "Louisana Red Wolf" Some call it a Mexican Wolf. This was in 1970-73. I saw them, as well as everyone on our lease which was on Palo Pinto Lake on the creek arm. Since we all bow hunted then, seeing a 100 lb wolf following you to the blind was not anything to look forward to. It got so bad, we stopped hunting by the creek. That pasture belonged to the wolves.
The game Warden was Rick Medford and he agreed with us about the wolves. After a few years, they let trappers in and it ended that problem.
In some ways though, it ended an era.
They were beautiful animals.
Good Luck

My family is from Strawn. I have hunted on about every acre surrounding that town. North and South along Hwy 16, The Gordon area, Necessity, even Lake Tucker!

That's where we had our first encounter with a "Louisana Red Wolf" Some call it a Mexican Wolf. This was in 1970-73. I saw them, as well as everyone on our lease which was on Palo Pinto Lake on the creek arm. Since we all bow hunted then, seeing a 100 lb wolf following you to the blind was not anything to look forward to. It got so bad, we stopped hunting by the creek. That pasture belonged to the wolves.
The game Warden was Rick Medford and he agreed with us about the wolves. After a few years, they let trappers in and it ended that problem.
In some ways though, it ended an era.
They were beautiful animals.
Good Luck

So YOUR the one that was sneaking on our property! Naw, I hunted in Strawn for 19 years. Killed my first everything there. Our lease was on 16 as you headed out of town on 16 you pass the road to Necessity. Our lease was on the right. You could also access it from the other side of town by the river. Pat Hencstons place.

Just out of curiosity, why hunt coyotes?

Just out of curiosity, why hunt coyotes?
Boy, is this a loaded question.

I guess people hunt them for different reasons. In areas where there is goat and sheep ranching, the coyotes are a real nuisance, and they take their share of young lambs. On our ranch, which is a cow/calf operation, I don't think the calves have much to worry about as long as there are deer.

What effect they really have on wildlife such as deer is still in question.
I know that if a deer is wounded on our lease, he has no chance of survival if he is leaking from any wound at all. AT other places, deer can survive a great deal of damage from gunshot as well as arrows and seem to get over it, but not in our area. There are too many coyotes that follow the blood smell. They may even smell the fear that iminates (sp) from a wounded animal.

Usually, larger number of coyotes survive because there is a larger food supply of deer and fawns, young turkeys, quail etc. In the evening, you can hear five to ten packs of coyotes at any one time. I estimate 5-10 dogs in each pack.

I've always thought that they need thinning out, if we hunt deer, it stands to reason the coyotes need to be taken as well. There is a balance of nature, and I think it's more delicate then you might think.

In short, they are a parasite that can get out of control. Thats the reason that they are now showing up in town taking down dogs and cats at the edge of the city.

I admit that I enjoy hearing them at night but we have way too many.

One year, we experimented with pen raised quail on the ranch I hunt. We brought in over 250 birds that literally had to be taught to fly and flush for hunting. Inside of two weeks, they were all gone, but there were quail feathers everywhere in that pasture. An expensive lesson for Tom & friends.

If there were a hog ,8 point buck and a coyote standing in front of me on the last day of the season, I would kill the coyote everytime.

I saw one pack of three coyotes take down a yearling once, they hemmed her into a fence corner and pecked away. Not a pretty sight.

The wildlife control folks will tell you the coyotes are self-regulating in their populations. That if food sources are abundant and the coyotes are cropped off in the area, others will migrate in to fill the void. That in lean times, female (word control won't allow the proper name for such)coyotes won't drop any pups and that in good times, will breed continually.

Seems even the wildlife folks have tried to control the dogs from time to time. In Chino Valley, here in Arizona, the packs would wait for a doe antelope to lay down for birthing, then eat the fawn as it was being born and also attack the doe. The antelope population got down so low the game department wanted coyote hunting contests set up for the area. The bunny huggers got wind of it and raised such a stink the hunts were cancelled. Game department then went ahead with helicopter and shotgun elimination of as many coyotes as they could find in a limited time period.

Never heard what the final results were, but there's still antelope hunting permits available today on a limited basis in the valley.

Personally, I'll pop a cap on every one I have the opportunity on. A wildlife official once told me the coyote is one critter that is smart enough to be a total survivor, no matter how many you try to kill. That the last two live things on earth will be a cockroach and a coyote - and the roach had better be looking out, else that coyote will get and eat him!

Very interesting. Wasn't supposed to be a loaded question. I work in the nat. resources field and so you don't have to worry about bambi-brain with me.

I was just curious as they aren't a big problem where I am.

A challenge to call & hunt, something to do when it's not deer season.

A challenge to call & hunt, something to do when it's not deer season.
Merry Christmas,
Saw two coyotes this morning in our neighborhood. We live about 18 miles out of Fort Worth. I'm sure they weren't here to look for Christmas presents.Tracks are always in our yard, even though you don't usually see them.

Merry Christmas,
Saw two coyotes this morning in our neighborhood. We live about 18 miles out of Fort Worth. I'm sure they weren't here to look for Christmas presents.Tracks are always in our yard, even though you don't usually see them.

You too, Tom. How's the deer hunting going with the cold weather and all?

You too, Tom. How's the deer hunting going with the cold weather and all?

Its been good lately.
Lotsa guys went hunting this passed week.

There were three more bucks killed Wednesday and Thursday,
I went Wednesday evening and Thursday morning, and while the feeders and plots are now paying off, I still haven't seen "the one" that would make me stick my hands in a gut pile.
The Biggest I've seen would go about 135 and he's a regular, but I have an 11" spike thats going down next week-end if he shows up. I think I'd be happier with that one.
I saw a big buck three times this season that was moving too fast to score, but big enough to not care if he offered the shot
We'll see what the last week-end turns up.
The hogs have started showing up but most hunters are waiting on them to see what bucks show.

Just out of curiosity, why hunt coyotes?

Too many of them can be dangerous, especially in an urban area. They are a detriment to the farmer and rancher. They will pull a foal or calf from the mother even as she's birthing it. They can also inflict serious damage to or kill the mother.

It also used to be that a prime winter pelt was worth some money. I used to keep myself supplied with ammo, gasoline, date money, and a firearm or two by selling the processed hides. Now, it's not really worth the work.

Too many of them can be dangerous, especially in an urban area. They are a detriment to the farmer and rancher. They will pull a foal or calf from the mother even as she's birthing it. They can also inflict serious damage to or kill the mother.

It also used to be that a prime winter pelt was worth some money. I used to keep myself supplied with ammo, gasoline, date money, and a firearm or two by selling the processed hides. Now, it's not really worth the work.

One of the neatest hunts I've ever been on was an early coyote hunt in Oklahoma.

There used to be a group of guys around here in Fort Worth that raised grey hound dogs. They would drive up to the Oklahoma Panhandle and used CB radios and binoculers, with 6 or 7 greyhounds and one big kill dog that obviously did the dirty work.
They'd load them all in a cage in the backs of 4 or 5 pick up trucks, then surround those fields, and incircle the coyotes. Well, the dogs would start going wild in the cage, and when everyone was ready, they would open the chute.

It was nothing but tails and elbows coming out of that cage but it was pure excitment when they all met up at the pack of coyotes. The old kill dog was not as fast as the others but when he got there, he knew what to do. He was the only one of the dogs that never got cut up.

The guy that started those hunts was a guy named Foy Keyes, who used to be the mayor of Everman, Tx. I was about 10-12 years old then and went a couple of times with them.I took a lot of pictures and they cut off the ears for the bounty.

I don't know if that is even legal anymore today but it sure was exciting. I still remember it 45 years later and would like to do it again.

I know some people who still hunt coyotes with dogs in the panhandle....

Back in the late 60's, early 70's, used to hunt with a fellow out of Lance Creek, Wyo. that owned greyhounds and a mastiff used for coyote running.

The ranchers in the area let him hunt anything he wanted to on their properties. Got to get in on some fine deer/antelope hunting with him because of it.

kdub & MikeG have it right; they're extremely adaptable, and as such make a significant problem for themselves, as well as a challenge. Before I moved here from Colorado Springs, I was running across them occasionally in some of the local parks. Always made me uneasy for the sake of unattended toddlers and pets -- after all, they wouldn't be there if there wasn't food to draw them in. Now, in that city, the outlying areas have a big problem with coyote, bear, and mtn. lion. Now I notice Phoenix has the same problem with coyote, javelina, and lion. Going to have to set up a blind in Apache Junction if it gets much worse... :D

Just out of curiosity, why hunt coyotes?
I hunt coyotes to have something to do in the “off” season.

Also, I haven’t drawn for deer or elk for some time.

In my area we can also purchase a cougar tag over the counter – it costs under 15 bux – and we can hunt cougars for 365 days a year.

That kinda shows the numbers or predators in this area (central Arizona.)

I’ve shot 2 coyotes with revolvers in the past 8 or so years while I was out hiking.

Calling is also great fun - I have an acquaintance who was the champion caller here a few years ago.

I’ve seen coyotes in Orange County, California - one walking across a 6-lane boulevard carrying a cat in its jaws.

Coyotes are the most successful predator in the U.S. Give calling a try sometime. If nothing happens within 15-2 minutes, move a mile or so away and set up again. It’s a hoot.

you know, i live right here between dallas and ft worth and i've been hearing more and more wild coyote calls at night. seen a few up on the road that where huge!... as big as my sisters german shepard, which lives less than 2 miles away. maybe i should find out the game warden for this area and have a talk with him/her.

']you know, i live right here between dallas and ft worth and i've been hearing more and more wild coyote calls at night. seen a few up on the road that where huge!... as big as my sisters german shepard, which lives less than 2 miles away. maybe i should find out the game warden for this area and have a talk with him/her.

Cowtown Texas sounds like a made up name, but we know it isn't.

We live in a area west of Fort Worth about 15 miles , and
our neighbors have lost two pet cats in the last two weeks.
You can clearly see the coyote tracks in the mud around the house. This city is growing so fast, that we're taking over their feeding areas.

yea. i live just south of euless between ftworth, arlington, and euless. easiest to call it cowtown. :D

everytime that train runs through you can hear the yelping as though the coyotes are chasing it down the tracks... knowing those tracks are only a few hundred yards away, i fear for the animals i see left outside. i've noticed i never see stray cats anymore...

do you just kille 'em
or do you use the carcas