Have been considering buying one of these number 1's in 458win/ or 458 lott, how reliable are they? and when firing do you get smacked in the fingers by the lever? Is the fore-end or butt stock prone to crack? I have also heard that they are not real accurate, can any-one answer these quirie's.

Have been considering buying one of these number 1's in 458win/ or 458 lott, how reliable are they? and when firing do you get smacked in the fingers by the lever? Is the fore-end or butt stock prone to crack? I have also heard that they are not real accurate, can any-one answer these quirie's.

100% reliable.

No smacking to the fingers by the lever, to the shoulder, that is another story. ;)

They are as accurate as you want them to be. Out of the box most of mine were (.22-250, .300 Wby, 375 H&H, .416 Rigby, .45-70) were from 1 MOA to 2.5 MOA shooters. All but the .45-70 after a little tweaking with the forend (free-floating the barrel and bedding the forend solidly to the hanger and bottom part of the receiver) are all solid MOA shooters or better, with the .22-250 bing a 1/2 MOA shooter all day long. The .45-70 is a 1.5 MOA shooter but I shoot it with peep sights and 450 gr. LWNGC bullets. If I were to scope it I am fairly certain it would shoot better also; the eyes "ain't" what they use to be.

The stocks are not prone to cracking or splitting. The hardest kicking No.1 I have is the .45-70. If ever there was a rifle that would crack its stock, it would be this one and it hasn't happened nor of I heard of it happening to anyone.

Hay closs

I don't know about the 458. I do have an old #1B with the 26 inch bbl in 243 Winchester that I use for varmits. It's dead reliable and has never failed to shoot. I don't believe you will have any problem with any of the gun parts hitting you.

It's got a Tasco target Dot 8-32 on it and was built in 1979 so's was back in Good trigger days. shoots under an inch at a hundred all day off my shaky old bench rest. One of the things I'm hearing from folks buying the new #1s is to replace the trigger with a moyer or such.

I sure like it. It is a beauty to hold and shoot. I passed up a really nice 458 cause I got a good 8mm Rem Mag I use for deer and elk and I just didn't want to deal with that much recoil.

If your just wanting a calibre like that for the fun of it believe me it delivers a lot of fun. There are some folks chambering the #1 for several bigger 45 and 50 calibre cartridges that I understand are even funner.

Can't emagine what your gonna shoot that a gun with a little less fun factor wouldn't kill.

I got a friend that uses his 460 Weatherby here for deer and elk and swears by it. Makes me flinch just watching him shoot it.

Well good luck with that 458. I think I will stick with the 243 though. After a day of shooting ground squrrels I can still walk back to the pickup truck.

I gotta check the Ruger site and see if their gonna chamber that #1 in their new 204 calibre. That should make a nice varmiter.

Big Bore & faucettb,
Thanks guy's, that sorted out my questions. I also understand you can adjust the ejecter, is this a easy task or not. What are the triggers like now, are they adjustable?

Cheers closs

Big Bore & faucettb,
Thanks guy's, that sorted out my questions. I also understand you can adjust the ejecter, is this a easy task or not. What are the triggers like now, are they adjustable?

Cheers closs

To adjust the ejector you just take off the forend and on the back side of the ejector there is a screw you turn to lessen the spring tension. I know it is there but I have never adjusted it.

The triggers are not really adjustable now. You can turn it down a bit, but not much, and then only for weight. I tried a Moyer's trigger but in all five of the guns I tried them in (I ordered three) I was going to have to modify either the trigger or the receiver trigger opening by grinding. One, I would not be able to return the trigger if I didn't like it, and the other, well, I wasn't going to grind on my rifles so I never did end up actually trying the Moyer's, I just returned them all for a refund. I put a Canjar set trigger on the .45-70 and that thing is really sweet. Expensive, hard to get hold of, I ordered direct from Canjar and it took 5 or 6 months to get, and a bit of a pain in the neck to set up, but once set up, it is oh sooo sweet.

I've got an old No.1 that you can easily adjust the trigger on, and a new No.1 that you can't.

With the new No.1's a good gunsmith that has worked on No.1's can adjust the new triggers by polishing and stoning. The few that I've shot that have been done this way have a trigger about as good as the Moyer triggered Rugers I've shot. Both are very good, but from what I've been able to gather, the Moyer is a quicker deal and may be cheaper to buy and install than to have a gunsmith spend his time working the original.

I've added a Kepplinger to one of mine, and it is incredible! Like the Canjar (at least the one I've seen) it's a single set trigger and is pretty expensive. Just something I had to try. It can be used normally and the unset trigger pull can be adjusted down to about 1.5 lbs, which I don't recommend for a hunting rifle. Mine is about 2.5 lbs and breaks like the proverbial glass rod. The set adjustment can be set down to a couple of ounces. The one advantage the Kepplinger over the Canjar is Brownells and Midway usually have them in stock and can be at your doorstep in a couple of days.

I'm toying with the idea of putting a Moyer in my other No.1 just to see how it is compared to the Kepplinger.

I believe the Moyer runs about $45-50, the Kepplinger about $180 or so, and the Canjar about $225-250.

Once again thanks for the positive input, i reckon i should buy one, ?458win or the 458 lott. they retail for about $1500 here in oz, oh well worth it .

cheers closs

Start with the Win Mag - you can always run the Lott reamer in, should Winchester's finest creation not kick you nearly hard enough... LOL.....

Start with the Win Mag - you can always run the Lott reamer in, should Winchester's finest creation not kick you nearly hard enough... LOL.....

I agree with Mike. Unless you are going after really big and dangerous game, the Lott is for showing off. OF course, why would one use a single shot for really big and dangerous game? The stuff about using a .458 Win in the Lott chamber is for emergencies only. Repeated use of the .458 Win in the Lott chamber will errode the chamber and then the Lott will stick. Not good especially in a DGR. Not to mention the .458 in the Lott chamber will give even lower velocities and the accuracy will not be anywhere near as good.

The 458win will be the go, i want it for just fun shooting, recoil is not a problem. I wondered if the firing of 458win in the lott chamber would erode it . thanks again.

cheers closs

I've adjusted my ejector on my Ruger 1 in 7mm RM, it will lay out the spent shell right in the channel of the receiver...it's great when your bench shooting and keeping the empties for reloading...if you use a little more force or action it will kick it out so you can reload for a second shot if you are hunting. I also check with Canjar about their triggers early this spring and they were about $160.00 with shipping....I need to set aside some cash for the trigger conversion myself.

David