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sjpi
07-27-2004, 06:53 PM
Wanted to let y'all know that my 13 year old son and I shot our first box of Remington Managed Recoil 30-06 ammo. I had been handloading 125gr Sierra SPs in front of 44grs of IMR 3031 for our Reduced Recoil load(Winchester brass and primers).

I wanted to try this new ammo simply because Remington advertises 50% less recoil than a 30-06 180gr PSPCL round. This ammo shoots a 125gr CoreLokt round and an unknown proprietary powder.

They further advertise this ammo to be a 200 yard deer round. I'd go to 240 yards with it for about 850fps, BUT, this isn't ammo for me. It is for my recoil sensitive son...5' tall and 100lbs of solid rock. His rifle is the new Remington 700ADL Youth model in 30-06 and this ammo compliments this rifle. The rifle wears a Leupold single piece base and Leupold rings holding a Weaver Grand Slam 4.5x14x40 w/AO. Total package weight is 8.25 pounds with 3 in the magazine and one in the chute.

Bottom line is this ammo absolutely has a significant amount of reduced felt recoil. You can feel it. I shot it in my Weatherby (same optic package above) and it is about 10-11ft/lbs on my shoulder. I'd say our reduced 125gr handloads are about 14-15ft/lbs. Remington claims the 'secret powder' is the secret. OK.

My son and his shoulder are happy. He planted 4 3 shot sub-MOA groups and I planted 2 3 shot sub-MOA groups all at 100 yards. My single shot at 200 was dead on at 2" low with a 1.5" high 100 yard boresight. Calm winds. Very accurate ammo for our first 20 rounds.

For all of you who have young boys or girls that are moving up to a youth model 30-06 but aren't ready for the usual 18-20ft/lbs of felt recoil I recommend this Remington Managed Recoil 30-06 ammo. Got mine from MidwayUSA.

One Shot One Kill,

JP

naumann
08-01-2004, 08:59 PM
It's great to have this factory option for beginning shooters of all ages and sizes. Glad to hear it works like they say.

In 1985 Finn Aagard had an article in the Outdoor Life Guns and Shooting Yearbook titled "30-06: The American Standard." In the article he describes giving his 12 year old son his first centerfire rifle: an '06 in "a commercial FN Mauser 98 action, a 20 inch barrel, and a shortened stock."

The handload Aagard worked up for his son, who doesn't look any too stout in the pictures, 150 gr. Speer BT, 47.0 gr. of IMR 4895.

As a matter of fact this is my summer time practice load except I use 150 gr. SP Remington bulk bullets from MidwayUSA. This might be a good "next load" for your kid when the time comes.

Charley
08-01-2004, 09:34 PM
Mrs Charley hunts with a 1903 Springfield sporter. I load the Sierra 125 grain .308 Pro-Hunter at about 2100 FPS, or about 7.62x39 ballistics. It will kill anything she is likely to encounter up to 150 yards or so. No recoil to speak of.

firebird
11-29-2008, 06:20 AM
Any time you reduce bullet weight or velocity you reduce recoil. By reducing both bullet weight and velocity recoil will be greatly reduced. A deer doesn't need a heavy magnum for clean kills. A 125 Gr bullet at 2000 FPS will easily take deer out 150 yds if the shot is well placed. In smaller calibers like the .270 Win, a 100 gr bullet at 2000fps second will still take deer effectively out to the same 150 yd mark. Recoil on the slow light loads will have very little recoil compared to the mother cartridge for that gun.
A full powered load in a 30.30 winchester 150 gr load is only moving at about 1800 and sometimes less fps at the 100 yd mark and it has a great reputation on deer.

Nomad
11-29-2008, 09:02 AM
Muzzle break and a hearing aid that allows to hear more
yet shuts down when you hear loud noises so no hearing
damage.
Get the muzzle break so you can remove it and install a cap
over the threads works great...
On page 480 of Speer reloading manual #14 shows a load that
might work 42gr of H4895 is slightly faster than a 30-30 Win...
Shooting a 150gr bullet... Should work.. Luck

Crash2Much
11-29-2008, 03:01 PM
This is how I stopped the recoil on my 300 win mag.

I remove the butt plate on the stock. I made a 2 lb LEAD weight to fit in the hole in the stock. It needs to be a perfect fit so it slides in tight. I replaced the butt plate with a recoil pad. I reloaded my bullets with a slower burning powder one that will burn 26" of the 28" barrel. I am loading 160 grain FB bullets at 3900 fps on my 300 win mag. I have the scope zeroed at 200 yrds. The rifle shoots 1" low at 100 and 300 yrds.

I reload 200 bullets at a time and target shoot on the weekend. 400 yard shots at an 8" diameter target. The extra weight, recoil pad and the different powder makes the 300 win mag recoil less than HALF what it was before. WOW, what a difference. I will never shoot factory load ever again. Recoil is less than factory load 30-06. I can hit 98 out of 100 shots at 400 yards.