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Gowge
08-05-2004, 11:26 AM
I've been making comparisons with Remington's NEW Managed Recoil 30-'06 load and other over the counter 30-'06 loads recently.

When you dig down into the numbers of the new Remington 30-'06 Managed Recoil cartridge and compare them to more familiar over the counter Remington Express loads, you begin to understand how clever Remington has applied their newest "Managed Recoil" Technology. The muzzle energy of the (125gr) Managed Recoil load is basically the same as the regular (165gr) Express Load, measured @ 200 yards. How do these numbers add up if you include a high intensity (Light Magnum) 30-'06 load in the mix?

I read about a similar application over a year ago when I came across the NEWS from H&H about their Magnum Cartridges and the newest addition to the family.

http://www.african-hunter.com/new_h&h_cartridges.htm

"With the .375 H&H as base level, the .400 H&H has 20% more energy, and the .465 H&H has 20% more energy than the .400 H&H.

Holland's design aims to extend the muzzle energy thusly:

The .400 H&H carries the muzzle energy of the .375 H&H to 100 yards;
The .465 H&H carries the muzzle energy of the .400 H&H to 100 yards; and
The .465 H&H carries the muzzle energy of the .375 H&H to 200 yards."

Perhaps with these criteria in mind, we can see a three step progression of power between the BASE Remington 30-'06 Managed Recoil loads, standard Express Loads and other manufacturers' "Light Magnum" loads or Safari Loads, etc... Looks like it is a fact. ;)

The Hornady 165gr (BTSP), Light Magnum delivers 2850ft/lbs @ 100 yards & 2428ft/lbs @ 200 yards,
while Remington Express 165gr shows 2872ft/lbs @ Muzzle, and 2352ft/lbs @ 100 yards. Pretty close to the same energy levels, but at the muzzle & 100 yards & 200 yards....
There's the comparison I was seeking - and when combined with the new Managed Recoil loads, this trifecta yields three steps or levels of power in a very logical progression...

30-'06 Comparison Loads

Remington Managed Recoil = 1964ft/lbs @ Muzzle

Remington Express 165gr = 2872ft/lbs @ Muzzle, 2352ft/lbs @ 100 yards & 1909ft/lbs @ 200 yards.

Hornady 30-'06LM SST 165gr = 3633ft/lbs Muzzle, 3170ft/lbs @ 100, 2755ft/lbs @ 200, 2385ft/lbs @ 300, 2057ft/lbs @ 400 yards.


I don't know if other calibers can make this large a step in power or not, but it would be interesting to examine the ballistics for the other Managed Recoil loads and find out...

I got the Hornady figures from this link: http://www.wholesalehunter.com/product/hornady/horndes/lh.htm

Remington's Ballistics Comparison is on this link: http://www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/ballistics.htm

You can compare the Managed Recoil cartridges to Remington's other standard loads on the above link.

Looks like the ol' 30-'06 has never, ever offered so many different power levels in over the counter ammunition in its History. With this in mind, it's more versatile than ever and still the most popular North American hunting cartridge. :thumbup:

GOOD LUCK! :)

kdub
08-05-2004, 11:33 AM
Guess it's no wonder that the '06 is the base cartridge all others are compared to when arguing ballistics.

A fine ol' cartridge that will always have a place in my collection.

crushert
08-13-2004, 07:35 AM
Bought a Rem 710 last night along with some of the managed recoil loads and some 150gr. loads. Hopefully I'll get to the range this weekend and try them out. Hoping my daughter will be able to shoot the managed recoil this year when we go deer hunting.

I'll post a "range report" after my experimenting.

Gowge
08-26-2004, 08:04 PM
I hope she enjoyed shootin' the old 30-06!

Hope you get to bring a nice deer home this fall.

GOOD LUCK! :)

Smitty357
01-18-2007, 03:40 PM
Have, shot and used low recol with my kids, kills deer dead, would not have known it was any diffferent from regular ammo, shot 1.25 groups at 100yds too, Remington Core Loct 125gr. managed recoil.

trahrey
01-18-2007, 04:23 PM
does anyone have a copy of the model 81 owners manual

ShootersChoice7
01-19-2007, 06:06 AM
I like the managed recoil loads because, you can practice with them, and get to know the rifle, and they won't change the POI for your hunting load.

M1Garand
01-19-2007, 06:50 PM
30-'06 Comparison Loads

Remington Managed Recoil = 1964ft/lbs @ Muzzle

Remington Express 165gr = 2872ft/lbs @ Muzzle, 2352ft/lbs @ 100 yards & 1909ft/lbs @ 200 yards.

Hornady 30-'06LM SST 165gr = 3633ft/lbs Muzzle, 3170ft/lbs @ 100, 2755ft/lbs @ 200, 2385ft/lbs @ 300, 2057ft/lbs @ 400 yards.



Must be a typo for the Hornady ammo....The Hornady LM energy seems a little high, even higher than a 300 Win Mag.