Hey,

How about sizing the .700 Nitro case. I heard some talk of .700 Nitro Wildcats reaching rediculous velocities, and high energies. All I know is that my .700 Nitro Bolt Action can knock over a large steel 50 gun case. I would like to put some of that power to velocity. What do you think?

It seems a little superfluous to me. What would you need it for? I personally think it falls under the heading of overkill.

No match for a 20mm cannon!

A little impracticle perhaps, but a LOT of fun!!!! :D

BigFifty -

Something along the lines of:

www.gmdr.com/levern/458700neEtc.jpg

sure makes the 458 RUM seem a bit smallish ;) (the inserted bullet is 500gr for the 458, 550 for the 475)

do shoot straight,
greg
www.gmdr.com

BigFifty,
You say you own a 700 NE? Tell me more! What make? Where do you get reloading supplies? Hows it feel?

BigFifty,
You say you own a 700 NE? Tell me more! What make? Where do you get reloading supplies? Hows it feel?

Now please tell us what you hunt with that CANNON?

How many times do you fire it at the range?

Do you have a muzzle brake on this rifle and what type?

What can it kill that my .458 Win mag can't?

What can it kill that my .458 Win mag can't?

Gophers, umm, 10 feet under ground, LOL

Why not a 700 Nitro? We've seen posts here about the 70-150 that Winchester brought out, we've got folks talking about 338 RUM, 338 Lapua, 458 Winchesters, 459 Lotts, 500 Jeffery's, 577 Snider's and Expresses, etc... I know of one Canadian that just returned from Africa that used a 700 Nitro Butch Searcy Presidential Grade double that worked well on elephant.

While it may be an expensive rifle and chambering, I personally can't see anything wrong with it. We have several members on this board using hot loaded 45/70's and 338's on whitetails. I think we can all agree those are definitely much more than is required for a 200 lb whitetail.

"I personally can't see anything wrong with it"

Wrong with it? H*ll no! It's giving me a stiffy just thinking about owning, or even just firing one. :D

But there's no reason it couldn't be downloaded from the 17000 ftlb levels, ie, 16-17gr of TiteWad or Waap in the 458-700 should drive a 405gr rnfp at ~1000 fps (and given the mass of a firearm chambered for any 700, the recoil would be on par with a "22LR").... shoot a couple thousand CAS loads to get all the parts mated and slickery... then load it for the big critters.

do shoot straight,
greg
www.gmdr.com

Alyeska........I have NO reason against that 700 caliber!

I was just wondering on the other scale, weather or not this person really fired the weapon or hunted with said rifle. Life is but a bowl of cherry, just don't swallow all the seeds...Amen!

Pyro,
My .700 Nitro doesn't kick as hard as theorized. With good form and stance, you'll be ok. Just think of shooting two 12 gauges at once. I do not have a muzzle brake. I just have a straight cylinder kreiger barrel. It uses a custom titanium action from viersco to control weight. I personally have only 10 rds. I just load and reload. The price of ammo is absurd, so I only have a few. Like 2Bits said, "What can it do that a .458 can't do?" Answer is, not much. Although it has nearly equal muzzle energy with the .50 BMG, there are no creatures that it can take down that the .458 can't. I have put all my shots on paper, never in hunting, though it has been tempting. It just dont want to be thrown out of my tree stand. I tried to test it on ballistic gellatin, but it wasn't big enough and just tore it apart. If you need any more information, just ask.

Big Fifty.......I am but a stone's throw from where your located in Warrensburg Missouri. I sure would like to see that big rifle of yours someday. How about I bring you up a pound of powder and half pound of lead and we could touch that rascal off in the far out younder spaces? :D :D

Big Fifty.......I am but a stone's throw from where your located in Warrensburg Missouri. I sure would like to see that big rifle of yours someday. How about I bring you up a pound of powder and half pound of lead and we could touch that rascal off in the far out younder spaces? :D :D
We'll have to do that one day! I'll try to contact you when I have some free time.

BigFifty, have you checked out the long range 14.5MM JDJ, or the 90 caliber custom JDJ? JD Jones necked the 50 caliber Browning to .585, and turned 1173 grain bullets for it. He estimates velocity at 2200-2400 FPS with that bullet. You could have a McMillan rebarrled for it. He also has a 90 caliber wildcat based on a shortened 20MM case. Greg Sappington

BigFifty, have you checked out the long range 14.5MM JDJ, or the 90 caliber custom JDJ? JD Jones necked the 50 caliber Browning to .585, and turned 1173 grain bullets for it. He estimates velocity at 2200-2400 FPS with that bullet. You could have a McMillan rebarrled for it. He also has a 90 caliber wildcat based on a shortened 20MM case. Greg Sappington
Greg,
Yes, I have viewed the cartridges that you stated. I personally own a rifle, that is chambered for .60-50 BMG. It is more practical than it seems. Sizing up the .50 Browning case is extremely simple. The rifle is in shooting/hunting condition, but I hope to make improvements in the future. Thanks though!
BigFifty

BigFifty,
What other ordnance do you own? Just the 700NE and the
60-50 is more than the rest of put together!

Thought you guys might like to have a look at Accurate Reloading's 700 NE.
http://www.accuratereloading.com/700nitro.html

Just the comparison of the action length and size to the rest of the cartridges lined up beside the rifle is eye opening.

Pyro,

I own a Marlin .22 Auto, Ruger 10/22, Marlin 30-30, Magnum Research 440 Cor-Bon, Ruger 44. Carbine, Beretta 9mm Carbine, An array of air rifles, .300 Ultra Mag, .22-250, .50 Grizzly, .60-50 Grizzly, .700 NE.
My whole life is centered around my girlriend and my guns. I like to keep a good array of guns for special duties.

BigFifty,
I like the attitude!

Most wildcatters making 700 NE size cases,
in a variety of calibers,use
the BMG brass as it is cheap and a rimless case,easier to set up in bolt actions.And the cases
are good for 70k pressures if you want.I like to wildcat BMG in the other direction, IE go up in bore to 700 and with a belt. Like the 700HE at the
following link. It is the one on the right in pic.
http://www.gunownerstv.com/700HE.jpg
We make them from BMG brass. I have made
620 cases like yours from BMG also, but necked cases never interested me, as I wanted to develope all straight belted..What length action is your 60-50 built on?.Ed.

hubel, whay do you like using the belt so much? Just curious as a lot of people are going away from belts.

George

George- For big hairy cases, belted, straight ones last a lot longer as there is no shoulders to work when resizing.Reamers and dies are simpler to make.
And headspacing and the experimenting is easier.
I make my own dies and reamers, by recutting and reworking other reamers, dies, and thick wall steel tubes, while I am developing cartridges.
I have 2 long 458 HE cases that I have reloaded
a hundred times each with 350 gr at 3000 fps, a moderate load. In the 700HE that is made from BMG
brass, we will never wear out a case with moderate loads.Ed.

Most wildcatters making 700 NE size cases,
in a variety of calibers,use
the BMG brass as it is cheap and a rimless case,easier to set up in bolt actions.And the cases
are good for 70k pressures if you want.I like to wildcat BMG in the other direction, IE go up in bore to 700 and with a belt. Like the 700HE at the
following link. It is the one on the right in pic.
http://www.gunownerstv.com/700HE.jpg
We make them from BMG brass. I have made
620 cases like yours from BMG also, but necked cases never interested me, as I wanted to develope all straight belted..What length action is your 60-50 built on?.Ed.

I am not sure of the length of my action. I have found it difficult to measure my action on my Grizzly, since it is actually part of my stock. But, I can say that I have a bolt pull of 9 inches (it was lengthened). The rechambering was simple, besides the fact I had to be careful due to the gun being match grade. With the new .60 caliber bullet, little change to the action had to be made. I look back on it now, and I think, the modification was senseless. But, it is nice to have a little something "extra". Well....... there was the bureau boneheads looking down on the ".60" bullet, but after formalities worked out, things went smooth.
But, I guess if you have time and money, I recommend this project. If not, stick to your guns.

I am not sure of the length of my action. I have found it difficult to measure my action on my Grizzly, since it is actually part of my stock. But, I can say that I have a bolt pull of 9 inches (it was lengthened). The rechambering was simple, besides the fact I had to be careful due to the gun being match grade. With the new .60 caliber bullet, little change to the action had to be made. I look back on it now, and I think, the modification was senseless. But, it is nice to have a little something "extra". Well....... there was the bureau boneheads looking down on the ".60" bullet, but after formalities worked out, things went smooth.
But, I guess if you have time and money, I recommend this project. If not, stick to your guns.

That sounds interesting. Why don't you post a picture of it.