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SemperIrratus
10-07-2004, 10:46 PM
My concern is... from a tactical standpoint such as home defense in a tight situation. A hallway in a residence and an intruder. What kind of comparassion is a .22LR going to be? Such as a .40S&W. I understand that larger calibers offer immediate stopping power. But I continue to see ads everywhere about how great the the conversion kits for your 1911 colt are. I want the real world opinion. Is a .22LR hydrashock round going to be similar to how the the 5.56 nato round reacts in the body, or the 5.45 russian? Long story short. Is a .22LR going to take a whole clip to stop an offender just out of point blank range? Body shot, not head. Home defense not attempted murder. Im a respectable law obiding citizen, volunteer fire fighter EMT and dont have any intent or desire to ever hurt anyone. Unless it should become necissary.

Thank you for your time and consideration
regards

~Xris~

PistolDave
10-08-2004, 04:42 AM
I found this link that might help.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/concealed_gun_chart.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/handgun_power_chart.htm

ruger22com
10-08-2004, 11:29 AM
My concern is... from a tactical standpoint such as home defense in a tight situation. A hallway in a residence and an intruder. What kind of comparassion is a .22LR going to be?
~Xris~

Forget the .22 (except maybe a magnum round) and either go with a shotgun (nothing scares away a criminal like the sound of jacking a round into a pump shotgun, or if you MUST use a handgun, choose an ammo similar to a Glaser Safety Round. This is basically a round made from a thin lead sheel filled with shot. it hits the body, goes in an inch or so, and explodes, yet also tends to break up going through a wall keeping you family safe in there rooms.

chevyrulez1
10-08-2004, 01:32 PM
There is a really big difference between the .223 (5.56 Nato) round and .22 LR. Both are .22 in diameter, but the .22LR is a 40 grain bullet going 1200 feet per second. The .223 round is around 60 grains and goes over 3000 feet per second.
This results in alot more destructive energy hitting the target.
For a good example of the wound patterns of different rifle and pistol rounds, have a look at the following web page.
http://www.firearmstactical.com/wound.htm
You can click on the links on this page for an illustration of ballistic gelatin tests.

The .22 LR is an excellent round for small game, target shooting, and plinking. However, most people do not recommend it for self defence. But, as the saying goes, it's better than nothing!

SemperIrratus
10-08-2004, 09:42 PM
Hey guys thanks for the replies! I was wondering cuz I've already got a Walther G22... POS!! but it was cheap and stuff... so yeah... My next firearm is gonna be either the Mossberg 590A1 or a glock G17 in .40cal. I found a loophole in the law allowing ownership of silencers. So Im leaning more towards pistol.

Regards
~Xris~

Jim n Iowa
10-09-2004, 05:10 PM
I once dated a nurse in ER, she new I was a rec shooter and passed on this info. " We get lots of people brought in with gun shot wounds by the police. We fix them up send them home and they die. All were hit with a 22 rim fire.
Jim

DWARREN123
10-11-2004, 12:40 PM
A .22 LR might stop someone but do you want to take that chance, a shotgun would be much better.

BackAcre
10-11-2004, 02:17 PM
Semper,
Better re-read your loophole, silencers are illegal and possession carries a very stiff federal penalty.

MikeG
10-11-2004, 02:36 PM
Semper,
Better re-read your loophole, silencers are illegal and possession carries a very stiff federal penalty.



Depends where you are. With the proper ATF tax stamp and signoff by chief law enforcement officer of your county (and probably some other patperwork as well), they can be legally owned in some parts of the country, certainly not all.

Illegal possesion.... don't want to get caught with that :eek: unless you like the free food/housing in the federal pen.

444fitch
10-13-2004, 07:47 AM
I myself would be a little leary of keeping a silencer on a gun that would or could be used for self defense ( assuming that at the time of need it may be present whether intentional or not) ,, The perps lawyer could have a field day trying to put a spin of some sort on your use of it . Maybe a stretch but you don't wan't to give them any (even far fetched) "ammo" to question your justification of your use of force.


444fitch