Both of these guns are equally priced, which do you think is better and why?

Bill

I just got a new carry gun. The Kimber Ultra CDP II.--- Just wanted to say that I LOVE IT. When I qualify myself I will carry this weapon all the time. Take a look on the Kimber website. Any further info just ask. pruhdlr

I am looking at the Kimber Compact Stainless II.

Kimber, period.

Not a big fan of the PARAs. Owned a P12 a long time ago and sold it a long time ago. Found out that it wasn't blueing, just paint. I now have 2 Kimbers (PRO Raptor and a Tactical) SOLD my PRO Eclipse to a friend of mine that liked it more than I did. Looking at the Eclipse 10MM right now.

SPAD

I've got a P12 I bought about seven years ago, and carry it almost daily. I don't know about others, but it's definitely not paint because there's no chipping and very little holster wear. Even the inside of the slide is still blue. Anyway, I've found the P12 to be accurate and reliable. I like the double-stack magazine, and it's not too bulky to carry IWB with a loose shirt, even in the hot months here in Phoenix. I do like the Kimbers as well, though; a friend of my has one and loves it. I don't think you'd go wrong either way.

I've had my eye on SA's 1911's; if you're not stuck on the Kimber vs. Para choices, there are a lot of good ones out there.

Good luck!

Greeting's All-

Para's using "paint" is the funniest thing I've heard in
the gun world in a long, long time. Partner, to bring
you up too date the finish on Para's is a REGAL type
finish. I own a brand NIB Para 1911 SSP, and its one
fine handgun; equal to any Kimber ever made, and
that includes their coveted "Team Match Kimber". I
would not trade my Para even, for any NIB Kimber.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member






I've got a P12 I bought about seven years ago, and carry it almost daily. I don't know about others, but it's definitely not paint because there's no chipping and very little holster wear. Even the inside of the slide is still blue. Anyway, I've found the P12 to be accurate and reliable. I like the double-stack magazine, and it's not too bulky to carry IWB with a loose shirt, even in the hot months here in Phoenix. I do like the Kimbers as well, though; a friend of my has one and loves it. I don't think you'd go wrong either way.

I've had my eye on SA's 1911's; if you're not stuck on the Kimber vs. Para choices, there are a lot of good ones out there.

Good luck!

Ala Dan----- Sir, Then I would say that you and I are about even in that>>>>> I would not trade my KIMBER for any para ever made.---- RESPECTFULLY-----pruhdlr

Kimber or a colt. cocked and locked is the way to carry a .45!

Greetings pruhdlr My Friend-

On the subject of Para vs, Kimber, in most cases I would
rate these two on a level playing field; especially when
considering Para's 1911 single-action, single stack SSP
and LTC models. I'm not a big fan of Para's LDA models
but I feel like I found a good one in the 1911 SSP that
I own; especially for the price of $515 + 8% sales tax!
As you know, Kimber has no model that can compare
with this price. I sell 'em NIB everyday for $599 + tax.
The least expensive Kimber I have in stock is priced
at $619; sorry but I can't I.D. this model; but its a
low-end blued model.

With that said, I think both Para and Kimber make
quality products. Para retooled, and addressed their
very early extractor problems; with the new power
extractors. They seem to be working well, as I have
not had any come in for warranty repair. Lots of the
folks in my area like the Warthog .45; but its way
too small for my big mitts! The LDA fans seem to
prefer the .40 S&W caliber; something else that I
am not a big fan of.

With the Kimber's, I sell a lot of the TLE-II RL's
and the Ultra Carry CDP's. Likewise, I've had no
returns on these guns either. I still have a NIB
25th Anniversary edition, and a NIB Kimber Team
Match; plus a complete line of the "Tactical"
models. Enjoy~

Respectfully,
Ala Dan, N.R.A. Life Member

I think Para is making a single column 45 auto that is double action ! Which would make it more compact to carry and have better knock down ! JAGG

Gentlemen, My Kimber Ultra CDP II is a single stack. That is one of the main reasons that I bought it. It's a 7+1. The bbl is only 3" and I consider it an "almost" full size grip. I never could stand not having a place to put my little finger. I "grew up" with the full size 1911 in my hand. The pistol weights only 25 oz. and that is a big plus for me. I found myself making excuses NOT to put on my CCW. That,admittedly is very bad. I wanted a .45ACP (the ONLY caliber for me),something as light as possible,something as flat as possible,something that I could wrap my WHOLE hand around. The short bbl. is a real plus for concielment. Another 2" of bbl. is not needed in a CCW situation. Your shots should be inside of 7 yds. in my opinion anyway. The 3" bbl. does have a little more flip to it but I can still put 3 shots in a 6" circle in under 2 secs at 7 yds. That will pass my quals. for a CCW anyday. This is just one respectful opinion-----pruhdlr

I own a Para carry L6 single stack that has had some extractor problems in the past and chokes on some ammo that other 45s seem to cycle without any problem. I will say this about Para - I sent them my .45 on a Tuesday for repair and had it back on Friday with lots of new parts, no charge. Not sure i would buy a second firearm from them - but their service is exceptional.

I really like the Para LDA 12, and my P10 pre-warthog. The LDA takes some getting used to. I was trained and train single action cocked and locked. Kimbers are a great buy as well and very well made. Can't go wrong with either. Pick the one that best fits your needs.

Sirs, I would totally agree with single action,condition 1 carry, is the way to go. It has served me well through out the years. I also feel that(for me) flatness counts in a CCW.I personally do not want to carry any double stack. I also feel that with proper training(which everybody should have for CCW) you will never need more than 7 shots to handle any situatation that you may come across. That is why I teach 7 shots at 7 yards --- accurately!! This is just one respectful opinion----pruhdlr

Ok I have to mix this question up a bit. The Para got sold, but now I have the opportunity to get a Colt Commander 70 Series 45acp or the Kimber. I'm kinda leaning towards the Colt, it is in 95%.

Bill