:confused: Gentlemen, I need a Lyman 57730, .575" diameter molding block for my .58 cal Kodiak double barrel muzzle loading rifle! It seems this mold has been discontinued. I had a Zoave .58 cal caplock rifle back in the late 60s, and that bullt was deadly on Muledeer, and black bear. Speer makes swaged round balls , but I not only want to mold my own, but want the hollowbased miniball the above mold casts! If anyone here knows where I can get one, please let me know, here if allowed, or my E-mail is DUGABOY1@aol.com

I have a 57730 for my Zuove. I bought it in the 1960's while I was in High School. It is a great deer bullet.
I have loaded and shot this bullet with many different charges including over 100 grains of FFFg. With this charge using the musket cap nipple the hammer would blow back to full cock and I dented the wood stock behind the hammer. My Dad made me stop that stuff!
I have used all types of grease from Crisco to wheel bearing grease (Aeroshell #5). It shoots well with most all lubes.

I am including a picture - if I did it correctly! - showing the mold and the bullet. For those just getting started with minies note the thick base around the hollow base. This bullet holds together very well and is quite accurate.

I have a 57730 for my Zuove. I bought it in the 1960's while I was in High School. It is a great deer bullet.
I have loaded and shot this bullet with many different charges including over 100 grains of FFFg. With this charge using the musket cap nipple the hammer would blow back to full cock and I dented the wood stock behind the hammer. My Dad made me stop that stuff!
I have used all types of grease from Crisco to wheel bearing grease (Aeroshell #5). It shoots well with most all lubes.

I am including a picture - if I did it correctly! - showing the mold and the bullet. For those just getting started with minies note the thick base around the hollow base. This bullet holds together very well and is quite accurate.

Very good pictures and that is the baby I'm looking for! Any idea where I can find one?

By the way your father is a smart man! I don't know how I, or you survived our youth, because I made a muzzleloader once out of copper pipe, and survived, but I was only 10 yrs old! :D

I haven't fired a muzzle loader since the late 60s, but got digging in my vault, and found I still have a 45 cal Round Ball Wesson caplock, and TC Hawkin .50 cal, the has never been fired, and the .58 Pedersoli Kodiak I just traded for! We have some 400, to 500 lb Russians in the East Texas "BIG THICKET" and Davey Crocket Ntl Forest! That Lyman bullet would be perfect for them! I had muzzle loaders, but not a muzzleloading double rifle. That's why I traded for the Pedersoli .58 double.

I'm a double rifle freak, and we have a public land special license in Texas for residents, But some of the best land is restricted to Muzzle loaders, or shotguns for deer, and Boar. 98% of Texas' 258,000 sq miles is private land, and this license allows me to hunt on about 3 million acres of WLM areas, and contracted private land, for all sorts of game, even exotics! Hence the rush back to the old smoke poles, and the double .58! :D

I would try Western Bullet Company
I'll look for a link.

I have had good luck with my rifle and HARD round balls also. Round balls of pure lead stop inside a deer. The hardened balls exit.
Ask you library for any books by Sir Samuel Baker. With Game and Gun in Ceylon is a good one to start with.

I would sure like a double .58 but I am unwilling to trade anything for it!

I would try Western Bullet Company
I'll look for a link.

I have had good luck with my rifle and HARD round balls also. Round balls of pure lead stop inside a deer. The hardened balls exit.
Ask you library for any books by Sir Samuel Baker. With Game and Gun in Ceylon is a good one to start with.

I would sure like a double .58 but I am unwilling to trade anything for it!

William, I'm an African hunter, and have read everything Baker ever wrote! He was one of the old greats, before Corbin, and Selous!

Speaking of tradeing for the .58 Pedersoli Kodiak, I traded an unfired Ruger No1 458 Win Mag for it! The 458 I got in a deal and had no real money in it, and I have lots of big bore cartridge rifles, mostly double rifles!

I'll do a search for Western Bullet Co! Thanks for the heads up!

http://missoula.bigsky.net/western/

This is a link to Western Bullet Company. Currently his stock of used molds is pretty low. He has a mailing list if you are looking for specific used molds.

Also try Chrales Hamiltons Yahoo Group CB-L.

Everything about Samuel Baker is interesting. From buying his wife in a white slave market to walking the Nile and running a Stag down in Scotland.

two of the best stories are his running out of bullets and shooting a buffalo with a roll of coins.

the other is his running the Stag down right in front of a large crowd of people.

While on the Nile his party had an interesting accident. They had stopped for lunch and laid their ML rifles down on a tarp. A tracker stepped over the rifles and his foot caught the hammer of one of the rifles. the gun discharged and killed another tracker.

Running behind elephants trying to reload a ML rifle from an open pouch of black powder is also a good story. Being thrown to the ground after discharging a double handfull of black powder behind a one ounce ball is probably an event to remember!

Baker knew rifles and spent a good amount of money testing them. An interesting man.

Would either of the LEE molds work for you?
I have the 90476 mold and it shoots pretty nice.
http://leeprecision.com/cgi/catalog/browse.cgi?1113779426.3310=/html/catalog/blackpow.html

Michael Grace

I believe that mould requires a 1 to 48 twist or tighter to stablize the bullet ! JAGG

I had a 57730 mold for quite awhile and loved it in my navy arms hawken rifle. Shot great all the way up to 150 gr. FFF. This was a very powerful gun. You black powder nuts know where I got this load from and what it did in Africa. When I got out of shooting black powder, I let it go. Play a little with them again and still only use 54 and 58 cal. Found another mold on ebay for 48 bucks. Good place to look for oddball things like this. God Bless Steve

Dugaboy1,
There is one on Ebay right now: item 7151833697

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll

I have about 5 different 58 cal molds and already bid on this one but have given up.

Dugaboy

what twist is your rifle?
I have got to looking at this bullet again.
My Zouave has a 1 - 68" twist and shoots the bullet well. I have heard that twists slower than 1 - 60" have trouble stabilizing this bullet - This is from my notebook, not certain where I got the information.

Try Buffalo Arms they have used and old moulds frequently. Also try Mikes Reloading, 802-254-5296, he deals in used, second, etc. Lyman moulds and has somereal oddities at tiimes.