Wow... is this gun a shooter or what! Its so accurate, I'm busting clays at 45-50 yards with it and factory ammo. I bought it today at the gun show... managed to talk the man down to 475 plus 2 factory mags and a set of hogue grips. I decided that the hogue grips weren't for me and went back to the factory setup. Mine is .40 S&W. I love the recoil on it too, its like the 900 FPS lead loads in my .357 Magnum.

I was all set to buy a 10MM, but nobody would move on their prices... and the only table that had one decently priced was kinda shady and there weren't a lot of people and he was looking kinda weird at me...

All my friends say the Beretta has problems and stuff... I don't think so... I picked up three different HP loads and three different FMJ loads and they all functioned perfect through it. It is a big gun though... almost the exact same profile as a 1911, only difference is a little bit wider. man I love it!

Wow... is this gun a shooter or what! Its so accurate, I'm busting clays at 45-50 yards with it and factory ammo. I bought it today at the gun show... managed to talk the man down to 475 plus 2 factory mags and a set of hogue grips. I decided that the hogue grips weren't for me and went back to the factory setup. Mine is .40 S&W. I love the recoil on it too, its like the 900 FPS lead loads in my .357 Magnum.

I was all set to buy a 10MM, but nobody would move on their prices... and the only table that had one decently priced was kinda shady and there weren't a lot of people and he was looking kinda weird at me...

All my friends say the Beretta has problems and stuff... I don't think so... I picked up three different HP loads and three different FMJ loads and they all functioned perfect through it. It is a big gun though... almost the exact same profile as a 1911, only difference is a little bit wider. man I love it!


Big gun, carried one for quite a while on duty, it was accurate but the 96's have one problem that's easily remedied, the INS had a new trigger return spring assy made and they are available from Wolff springs for $20.

http://www.gunsprings.com/1ndex.html

Often thought of picking up another but that would entail adding another cartridge to an already extensive list. Besides I have several 10mm's.
Good shooting

I have the 96G Elite2 and absolutelly love it. Like you said a great shooter. I've had great results with speer gold dot 165gr. As for problems few and far between if any. Mec-Gar makes a 12rd that fits 13 and I havent yet had problems with it feading 13 after 200 rounds. Great gun and have fun

Having carried one while on duty with the military, both on US soil and on foreign, I have this to say about the beretta 92 family.
Easy to shoot, they have a egrnomic desogn. Large, they are kinda on the big side for an auto loader. And that is the end of the benefits.
When your carring one you have to make sure to keep them clean and dry, they dont like dirt and the open top design is prone to problems there. Also in close contact the slide can be very easily stripped from the gun.
Accuracy wise the match shooters are not putting down their 1911's due to problems getting the m-9 to shoot to the levels that they get the 1911 to. Mostly due to the fact that the beretta doesnt use a barrel bushing.
I'm not saying that you didnt get a good deal or a good shooter, but its not my choice for a carry, or target gun.

I heard about the 92 problems withg disabling the gun... you wouldn't be able to do that with the 96s... you have to hold in a small button while moving the lever to remove the slide.

Same with the 92's the button is on the right, lever is on the left, if you are holding it.
Hold the pistol (cleared and unloaded and on safe) in your left hand. Then with your right thumb, push the button in. And with the right forefinger push the lever down, then gently remove the slide assembly... with practice you can get it under a second.
The difference between the 92 and the 96 is only caliber, one is 9mm the other 40s&w. Inerntals are the same.

I don't know... if anybody gets that close to me, I'll just pull the trigger. ;)

I think a lot of people have a bad sentiment againts the 92/96 because it replaced the 1911, even though it is a better gun. No finicky ammunition, berettas test gun went 186,000 rounds without a failure to fire (from their website). I really like how this pistol has a lot of aftermarket following, unlike my ruger.

Matt,
I have no bad sentiment against Berettas, as I own several of their shotguns and older pistols. I like the old single stack Brigadeer, but do not like the feel of the 92's and 96's. To me their grips feel like I'm trying to control a 2X4. I know that some of their original issue 92's had frame cracking problems, but that is supposed to have been corrected, I know I haven't heard of any cracking in a long time. I just beleive that chamging to the 9MM just because of NATO was a mistake. My personnal preference is for steel framed firearms, even tho they weigh a few ounces more, I feel more comfortable with them. I also believe that we should not be dependent on a foregin made weapon. As good as they are there is always the posibility that they will not always be one of our Allies, or decide that they don't want to support our efforts in a conflict with another nation, and embargo further supplies to us. Like you, I feel the design of the Beretta is a good one, but I would rather see an American company supplying our weapons. As far as being a better gun than the 1911, if given a choice between the two weapons I would take the 1911 every time. Make the frame from steel, improve grip, and chamber in .45 ACP, then it would be a toss up.

Lee L.

Matt,
I have no bad sentiment against Berettas, as I own several of their shotguns and older pistols. I like the old single stack Brigadeer, but do not like the feel of the 92's and 96's. To me their grips feel like I'm trying to control a 2X4. I know that some of their original issue 92's had frame cracking problems, but that is supposed to have been corrected, I know I haven't heard of any cracking in a long time. I just beleive that chamging to the 9MM just because of NATO was a mistake. My personnal preference is for steel framed firearms, even tho they weigh a few ounces more, I feel more comfortable with them. I also believe that we should not be dependent on a foregin made weapon. As good as they are there is always the posibility that they will not always be one of our Allies, or decide that they don't want to support our efforts in a conflict with another nation, and embargo further supplies to us. Like you, I feel the design of the Beretta is a good one, but I would rather see an American company supplying our weapons. As far as being a better gun than the 1911, if given a choice between the two weapons I would take the 1911 every time. Make the frame from steel, improve grip, and chamber in .45 ACP, then it would be a toss up.

Lee L.



I've carried a Beretta 92FS for awhile. And I love it As to your comment that we shouldn't have them because they are made in a foriegn country (Italy) is false. If any firearms maker wants to make pistols for the US Government. They must have a plant in the US. The lower 48 to be exact. That reason is because of if we do go to war with the parent nation of that fire company. We nationalize the plant and still pump out the weapon. Being from a M9 Pistol to a Crew Served weapon system like the FN design M249 SAW or the M240 Gulf.

Next time you go to a gunshow, look at the Beretta 92s or M9s. They will say...

"BERETTA U.S.A. CORP. ACKK. MD.-MADE IN USA (PB)"

Also, though Glock does not have any contracts with our military. They did compete to replace the Colt 1911A1. Part of that competetion was that they needed to build a plant in the USA. They did, it's in Georgia.

Glock 23C,
Granted there is a plant in the U.S. for Beretta, look at some of the original issue firearms. My original issue weapon was marked Gardone Italy, as the initial manufacture of Beretta's were imported until the present plant was built. While touring the Beretta plant in Italy the guide made sure to mention the number of Model 92's that were shipped to the U.S. Military.

Lee L.

my pistol says it was made it the united states, and Beretta's web site says all handguns are made in the united states.

M1894, I do know that our original M9 and civilian M92s were made in Italy. But that was something like 20 years ago. Now since the Beretta plant is in the USA. They make them here and Italy. Civilian models are made in both plants. All military and police are made in the USA. So if wo do go to war. Bam, we nationalize that plant and just continue pumping them out.

I carried a M9 while in the army. I loved it. I still carry a M92 and I love it. But my department issued me a M96, I didn't like it. Mostly because it hold 11+1 in 40S&W. And my smaller Glock 23 will hold 13+1 in 40S&W. But the M96 itself is a great pistol.

Have had one for nigh twenty years, both military and civilian. This gun works.

Reckon allot of the negatives about this system are the inevitable backlash that soldiers tend to vent, as we used to cuss the 1911s that we had in the arms room, and were tickled to death to get the M9s, back in the day.

Congrats on your weapon, Matt, I know that it will serve you well.

Steve

Well the military has always relied on the lowest bidder that meets the minimum requirements to be its supplier of choice unless politics gets in the middle...

I suppose thats why they pay $110 for a bolt you can get at a hardware store for $.43

especially if the congressman or senator owns the bolt factory....

Glock 23C,
I wasn't bad mouthing the Beretta, just stating my preferences for a steel framed firearm like their old single stack Brigadeer. I can shoot better scores with my old single stack than I can with the Model 92. thus my preference.

Lee L.

Glock 23C,
I wasn't bad mouthing the Beretta, just stating my preferences for a steel framed firearm like their old single stack Brigadeer. I can shoot better scores with my old single stack than I can with the Model 92. thus my preference.

Lee L.

Hey M1894, I didn't mean to flame you in anyway. Sorry if you misunderstood. And we all have our own choices and prferences to firearms. Hence why there are so many choices of firearms out on the market. What ever gun and caliber you use. I hope it's the best one that you feel good with.

Glock 23C

Glock 23C,

No offence taken, Just thought that you misunderstood what I said, as I always inform anyone who askes me what is the best gun, my reply is always, " Whatever feels best to you, that you can hit with, Shot placement is the most important thing on the agenda. "

Lee L.

Matt, I've had and shot a lot of 92s and 96s. They're great guns. You got a good deal. The slide feels like it's on rollers. Still, my department only allows 92D and 96D in Beretta. So, I carry a Glock. Forgive me, all. :o

How does the Taurus 100B model compare to the Baretta 96? I have never heard anyone compare the two as far as function and accuracy before.

Well... its the same gun... only made in Brazil... I think Beretta owns Taurus... thats the only way that they are allowed to be manufactured...

Taurus bought the plant in South America from Beretta many years ago. The original M92 had the frame mounted saftey but the US wanted a pistol that could be loaded with the saftey on so Beretta changed to the slide mounted unit. I think the 40 makes a lot of sense in a gun the size of the Berreta. 9MM seems too small for it.