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I have this same mould and the bullets shoot very well out of the five .41's I load it for. $80 for a 4-cavity SAECO is a steal.

Check the inventory reduction for the current week, several SAECO .44 Mag/Special moulds also at the great price.

I used to have some SAECO molds a few years ago, changed over to the Lee aluminum ones and have had pretty good luck with them. Just got the 210 .410 tumble lube without a gas check from Midway. Sure shoots good without going thru the sizer. It's a two cavity style. I know that it's not as fast as a four, but they start making good bullets almost from the first.

what 41's do you shoot. I just bought a taurus tracker in stainless in 41 for a carry in the woods fishing and walking. We are getting a lot more bears in our back country including the big ones with the hump on the back. I wouldn't ever want to have to shoot one, but would rather have something other than the little Rossi 22 revolver I have been carrying for the past ten years.

2 Blackhawks, 1 Bisley, 1 Blackhawk Hunter, and a 657. I like them all, but the Bisley and 657 I'm especially fond of. I had a Marlin 1894FG..it was a tragedy the way the gun was put together and delivered...someone else had to have it and I was more than happy to let them have it. I typically wouldn't sell something like that to someone but Marlin did not seem too eager to make it right.

How does the Tracker shoot? I've had a few chances to pick one up but never did do it. The one's I've handled seemed to be well put together with a good feel for pointing and balance. The Blackhawk with the 4.625" barrel is pretty handy to carry so I never made the jump over to a smaller revolver. If you want to load a .41 to the tilt it doesn't give up much to the .44, but I wouldn't do it in the Tracker...the 300gr SSK loads are viscous in the short Blackhawk as is. The 250-265gr bullets seem to work very well and are more of a practical limit in the .41, in my opinion at least. I'm interested in trying some of Marshall's 280gr bullets, but I haven't found any data yet. I've got too many projects going as is, so that may have to wait for a while.

No bears where I live, except the zoo, so I don't worry to much about that kind of thing. I'm more apt to be carrying a 10mm Kimber for the types of pest around here. I made a trip to Alaska last Sept and was tempted to bring the short Blackhawk with me, but it seemed like a good excuse to get a 5" RB in .480 Ruger...so I did. I can get about 1200 fps with a 420gr bullet out of that, but it is much more pleasant to shoot with lighter loads. The porting and grip tame it well, but it's still a handfull with the big bullets loaded to top speed.

The mould I listed from Midway is a good shooter in my guns. It's design isn't likely the best for hunting, but I bought the mould when I was shooting a large quantity of ammo at various things that had no hair, so it's seen it's share of use. I can make a lot of bullets in a little time with it, so it only sees a couple hours of use in a typical year. The fact that I purchased 5K Hornady 210gr XTP's is also a factor, they where "blem" bullets..I'm guessing it's all cosmetic because they shoot very well.

wow found someone else that casts for the 41 mag.
I bought the lee 210 tl and they drop at .411 my alloy and my smith M57 just loves them.
I had a marlin fg 41 mag and just gave up on it and cast bullets but yet again jacketed bullets weren't much better.it went to the happy hunting grounds via a gunshow.
best load so far in my smith
lee 210 tl
15.0 2400
starline brass
win lp primer
AH-1

2 Blackhawks, 1 Bisley, 1 Blackhawk Hunter, and a 657. I like them all, but the Bisley and 657 I'm especially fond of. I had a Marlin 1894FG..it was a tragedy the way the gun was put together and delivered...someone else had to have it and I was more than happy to let them have it. I typically wouldn't sell something like that to someone but Marlin did not seem too eager to make it right.

How does the Tracker shoot? I've had a few chances to pick one up but never did do it. The one's I've handled seemed to be well put together with a good feel for pointing and balance. The Blackhawk with the 4.625" barrel is pretty handy to carry so I never made the jump over to a smaller revolver. If you want to load a .41 to the tilt it doesn't give up much to the .44, but I wouldn't do it in the Tracker...the 300gr SSK loads are viscous in the short Blackhawk as is. The 250-265gr bullets seem to work very well and are more of a practical limit in the .41, in my opinion at least. I'm interested in trying some of Marshall's 280gr bullets, but I haven't found any data yet. I've got too many projects going as is, so that may have to wait for a while.

No bears where I live, except the zoo, so I don't worry to much about that kind of thing. I'm more apt to be carrying a 10mm Kimber for the types of pest around here. I made a trip to Alaska last Sept and was tempted to bring the short Blackhawk with me, but it seemed like a good excuse to get a 5" RB in .480 Ruger...so I did. I can get about 1200 fps with a 420gr bullet out of that, but it is much more pleasant to shoot with lighter loads. The porting and grip tame it well, but it's still a handfull with the big bullets loaded to top speed.

The mould I listed from Midway is a good shooter in my guns. It's design isn't likely the best for hunting, but I bought the mould when I was shooting a large quantity of ammo at various things that had no hair, so it's seen it's share of use. I can make a lot of bullets in a little time with it, so it only sees a couple hours of use in a typical year. The fact that I purchased 5K Hornady 210gr XTP's is also a factor, they where "blem" bullets..I'm guessing it's all cosmetic because they shoot very well.


I am very pleased with the tracker. I have a Super Redhawk 7.5 inch in 44 mag and bought my son a redhawk 5.5 inch in 44 mag. I owned a 4 inch Smith 57 and a 6.5 inch 41 mag blackhawk (it was a long while ago so I'm not sure of that barrel length, but is was quite a bit longer than the 4 inch 57.) I really liked all the 41's, but got into silloute shooting and went to a 6.5 inch Smith 29.

I've killed 19 black bear and a pile of deer with the 41 and 44 mags. I shot one Brown bear in Alaska that was chewing on a friend of mine. It was with a Smith 29 with 240 gr. jacketed hollow points and only took one shot thru the ears at close range. I was so scared I almost wet my pants.

Personnly I would'nt say the 44 mag is a Brown bear gun except for last resort. It does not have much more energy than a 30-30 at the muzzle and I don't consider that a big bear gun.

For the life of me I can't tell the difference between the 41 and 44 mags as far as killing black bear and deer, black bear seem fairly easy to kill. I'm happy to see the 454 and the 480 come out as they would make better sense in Alaska. I guess the ultimate would be the new X frame Smiths. After handling one I just don't think I would want to carry one.

All the guns in 41 and 44 were exceptionally accurate. I could use heavier bullets in the 44 for the 200 meter steel targets which helped.

The Taurus has a short cylinder. It can handle anything the factory puts out, but won't do what the longer cylinder loads the Black and Redhawks will. It shoots both factory loads and Lee's 210 grain tumble lube cast at 900-950 fps into less than two inches at 25 yards.

I havn't chrono'd the factory loads, but the four inch bbl on the tracker is gonna slow down them a little over published velocity.

The porting works wonders and this gun does not climb anything near what the 5.5 inch Redhawk does shooting 255 grain cast at 1300 fps which is a mild load. It almost stays right on target and second and third shots are quick and easy even with hot loads.

With the factory loads you need ear protection as the porting makes it much more brutal for the ears. The Ribber grips are absolutly excellent, some of the best I have ever used.

I have the stainless version that weighs in at around 34 oz. I tried one of the super light ones and deciced right off I'd go the extra ten oz. as I wanted to shoot it a lot. The titanium gun is brutal with factory loads. It's a lot like shooting one of those 16-18 oz's 357's. At 34 oz it is still a really nice gun to pack in a belt holster.