I learned from an ammo rep that the Wallmart ammo is made in a seperate building at Winchester than the regular Winchester ammo. This is so they can use less exspensive components than that used by Winchester in its normal operations. Lets Wallmart sell cheaper but the ammo is not the same. Suprised me when I heard it but then it made sense that it allowed them to undercut gun shops.

And whose ammo did this ammo rep sell, exacty?

Makes no sense, it would cost more to use a diffrent facility, mark the loads differently and store them seperatlyas well. not to mention hiring additional personnel to staff the seccond facility.
Like Mike said, "Whose ammo did this rep sell". Wal Mart saves shipping cost by picking up and transporting merchandise in their own trucks in most cases.

Generally anything made specificaly for a merchant usually carries a different lable than the Manufactures own product line.

Lee L.

The ammo rep buys and sells from several companies including Winchester and acts as a distributor. Anyone no anyone who can check the report out would be appreciated.

Sounds like someone selling you a line of BS. M1894 list a ton of valid reasons for this. There is also the factor that Winchester also likely takes pride in their product and would like to sell lots of it. That would preclude selling an inferior product where a large percentage, probably the LARGEST percentage in relation to sales outlets, of customers would be purchasing it.

If all you had to do was make the cheapest product to sell it to everyone, we'd all be shooting Wolf.

And whose ammo did this ammo rep sell, exacty?

I equate this to my wifes comments to me on the not-to-frequent time she will catch me doing a load of laundry. "You didn't use a whole capfull of detergent - how do you expect the clothes to come clean." To which I reply, "Honey, if you sold laundry detergent - how much would you tell the user to use? As much as you thought you could get away with so they come back and buy more sooner as opposed to later."

There are lots of folks out there who just don't want to think for themselves or won't question something they hear or see in print.

Now I might believe that their quality control is a little lesss strict...not sacraficing safety...or that they use the least expensive bullet in their line (and perhaps even some "blems"), but I do not belive they would keep a sepeate plant to make crappy ammo.

I'd bet that WallMArt doesn't buy from that guy....and that WallMart's pricing is probably a sore spot for him.

Remember when buying a product from a wholesaler, the larger the volume, the larger the discount.

No reputeable manufacture will cheapen any part of their product line that carries the same lable as their best product. People do not look at where something is purchased, but at the brand of the product when they judge it.

Lee L.

While I don't have any info to add about the Winchester ammo, I do know that Wal-Mart gets things made to their own specifications from some manufacturers. I used to be a manager for a department store, and people would often bring in ads (or even the items themselves) and want to price-match. Often the items were similar to, but not exactly the same as, items available to any of the department stores at wholesale. I remember one example of a ladder - the manufacturer escapes me right now - in which the model # was different only in suffix, and minor parts were different, but the average consumer did not know the difference and wanted to know why our ladder was more expensive. Mixers and other small household appliances were the same way.

I doubt that Winchester maintains a separate facility for Wal-Mart, but I have no problem believing that their ammo is made to different specifications. Buying in bulk and shipping things themselves are not the only ways in which Wal-Mart pinches their pennies - and their suppliers.

Yup, it's common for manufacturers to 'brand' products for their big customers - plenty of this goes on in the computer industry, and even stuff like power tools (I'm using Black & Decker batteries in my DeWalt drills).

I'm sure Winchester does have more than one plant; and who knows, maybe Wal-Mart does buy enough stuff to keep it running full-time. But the logistics of deliberately making any product crappier for one customer, are just too much to think about.

And anyway, if it wasn't safe to shoot, you can bet it would not be on the shelves long. Too much liability!

wolf-cookies....



Darrell

It is a known fact that Wal-Mart tells some manufacturers that in order to keep Wal-Mart's business they will need to re-locate their manufacturing to Asia. Look on the box and see where the ammo was made. If it's a foreign country, Winchester (Olin) could very well have set us a facility to satisfy the deep discount retailers.

Alright guys - we've been through this one enough, and don't need to drag global politics into it.