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DOK
05-30-2005, 11:27 AM
Docs Want Kitchen Knives Banned
Sunday, May 29, 2005

There is a menace lurking in British homes — the common kitchen knife.

Citing a rash of stabbings across Britain, three physicians wrote in a British Medical Journal article published Friday that the large pointed knife beloved by chefs both professional and amateur was needlessly deadly and should be replaced by safer, blunter counterparts.

"The long pointed kitchen knife is an easily available, potentially lethal weapon, particularly in the domestic setting," wrote lead author Dr. Emma Hern of West Middlesex University Hospital (search) in London.

Short knives, Hern and her colleagues Drs. Will Glazebrook and Mike Beckett wrote, generally caused only superficial wounds, but long pointed blades slip into human flesh in a way akin to "cutting into a ripe melon."

The doctors proposed a simple solution — outlawing pointed choppers and slicers.

"Government action to ban the sale of such knives," they wrote, "would drastically reduce their availability over the course of a few years."

Reaction from professional chefs in Britain was less than enthusiastic.

"Kitchen knives are designed for a purpose," the head of the Edinburgh, Scotland, Restaurateurs Association told The Scotsman newspaper. "It would be like asking a surgeon to perform an operation with a bread knife instead of a scalpel."
In America, where deadly weapons tend to be more sophisticated, leading authorities thought the proposed British ban was cute.

"Are they going to have everybody using plastic knives and forks and spoons in their own homes, like they do in airlines?" Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association (search), asked The New York Times.

"Can sharp stick control be far behind?" wondered LaPierre's erstwhile opponent, Peter Hamm of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence (search).

faucettb
05-30-2005, 11:45 AM
There was a movement here in the US like that for a while, something about outlawing ski masks I think. It goes along with the thinking that it's the ski mask or the gun that commits the crime.

Dave H
05-31-2005, 02:42 AM
I reckon that all husbanes would agree that baning things like Skillets,Rollingpins & other blunt heavy Kitchen objects ! would be far more practical .As they can be thrown with far greater accuracy Than a knife!(I speak from experaince in these matters!)

MikeG
05-31-2005, 08:20 AM
My dad can tell a real interesting story, about some 'economically disadvantaged' folks that lived across the street from his construction business / warehouse.

Seems there was a bit of a domestic disturbance, involving one of the parties (who survived) getting a cast iron skillet broken over her head.

Not only did she survive, but put a kitchen knife through the other party involved, who did not.... :eek: Frankly.... I think that the perpetrator got what he deserved.

AZ223
05-31-2005, 01:04 PM
Why do I feel like I'm missing the joke here? Is it because this is NOT a joke??? In which case, I can relate something: I work for the AZ Dept. of Corrections. ALL knives & such are banned from the facilities, including metal silverware. Somehow, assaults & murders still take place. Instead, they simply fashion the necessary item from whatever is at hand, be it a bedspring or piece of metal from the bedframe, sharpened against the concrete until it's ready for the job. We have on display examples of weapons fashioned by prisoners that are every bit as effective as the dastardly kitchen knife. Which makes me wonder, who is paying the salaries of the idiots who come up with laws like this???

alyeska338
05-31-2005, 05:24 PM
In the BBC news article linked below, one justification for the ban was "They argued many assaults are committed impulsively, prompted by alcohol and drugs, and a kitchen knife often makes an all too available weapon".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4581871.stm

So the UK has an alcohol and drug problem they intend to solve by banning knives?! Maybe that is a broad leap, but it does seem the knives (or guns) in nearly 100% of cases here and abroad are not the impetous for the crime. A gun or knife cannot make the decision for the perpretrator of the crime to commit the crime. Why the UK or the USA does not tackle the problem of drugs or alcohol abuse as veheminately as they try to outlaw perfectly useful tools or sporting arms is beyond me.

Let's not forget that here in the great USA we have Diane Feinstein doing her dead level best to take firearms out of the hands of responsible citizens, yet has a Concealed Carry Permit for a 38 and she does carry it. Her son is also a gun owner.

While we shake our heads at the current suggested law by the British medical community, we do need to remember that if we allow it happen here, it will.

gomer_pile
05-31-2005, 05:30 PM
i say we outlaw envelopes. envelopes are responsible for the cutting of toungs around the world, i think if we out law evenlopes we can win this war on paper cuts

loraksus
06-01-2005, 01:42 AM
We uhh, have to have flexible signs because motorists get hurt by standard signs. (This is not a joke)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4587629.stm

oh.. and..
http://www.wilderdom.com/images/RiskSharpEdgesSign.jpg

/3 cheers for the nanny nation.

Swany
06-01-2005, 02:11 PM
They said guns were dangerous so they took them away.
They said knives were dangerous so they took them away
They said my hands were dangerous.

gomer_pile
06-02-2005, 01:50 PM
i think shoelaces are dangerous, they can cause choking

M1894
06-02-2005, 04:25 PM
I guess they will have to outlaw stones, Remember David slew Goliath with a small round stone from a sling.

Lee L.

gomer_pile
06-02-2005, 06:44 PM
ohh yea and cant forget about tent stakes, a judge killed a king with a tent stake.

on that note what about the jaw bones of animals

DOK
06-02-2005, 09:14 PM
on that note what about the jaw bones of animals

Particularly the jaw bones of politicians.....very dangerous and should be out lawed.

ctrout
06-03-2005, 12:10 AM
Particularly the jaw bones of politicians.....very dangerous and should be out lawed.
I guess that is to say that politicians ARE asses.

M1894
06-03-2005, 09:16 AM
DOK, You couldn't be more correct.

Lee L.

M1894
06-03-2005, 09:18 AM
ctrout, I wouldn't call them asses, as asses are hard working little animals.

Lee L.