View Full Version : Need help scoping a JC Higgins Mod. 50 (Commercial FN Mauser )
clement1
06-25-2005, 01:15 PM
I've found a beautiful JC Higgins Model 50 in 270. It is a wonderful and accurate rifle but I need help finding scope bases that will work properly.
It is already tapped for mounts, but I have no idea where I could find scope bases for it. No one lists JC Higgins and no one lists FN Mauser.
Since it is already drilled and taped from the factory I imagine, I don't want to redrill it. A Weaver #46 mount fits on the front receiver, and sopmeone said if that is the case then a Weaver #45 would fit the on rear. The bridge and the receiver are at different levels as is typical of Mausers.
Any help input in helping me find the correct mounting system for this rifle would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
clement@coconet.com
ribbonstone
06-25-2005, 01:42 PM
Can check out Brownells...they list the FN (under Sears) for at least the standard Weaver type two-pice mounds. Accordaing to their chart, it should take a #45 REAR and a #46 FRONT.
Also list the Weaver "grand slam" bases..these are the same baisic bases except they are made in steel...as the S45 and S46.
Haven't gone through all the listings...figure the steel Weavers would be a pretty good choice with a lot of ring height/style options.
Could bet aht the person who bought it first had it tapped fr some odd ball mount...but the good news is that Brownell's is very good about returns (so long as you don't chew it up) and will let you talk to a real perosn to ask questions.
faucettb
06-25-2005, 02:15 PM
Like ribbonstone says, but, Brownells has a great tech department that can help you also. Measure the distance between the tapped holes and send them an email to their tech department and they will assist you in getting the right bases.
MikeG
06-25-2005, 02:48 PM
As it turns out, I've got a Redfield-style base for a commercial FN mauser action (dovetail front / windate rear) that I never used.
Here's the hole spacing on mine. There are 3 holes, two in the front receiver ring, and one in the rear. Distances are from the front hole, and center to center.
~ 0.870" to second hole in front receiver ring.
~ 5.190" to rear receiver ring hole.
You might have 2 holes in the rear ring.... as I recall my Interarms Mark X has 2 holes front and rear, but I have Warne bases on it. If I had used this mount instead, the rearmost hole would just not be used.
Gil Martin
06-25-2005, 03:29 PM
I've found a beautiful JC Higgins Model 50 in 270. It is a wonderful and accurate rifle but I need help finding scope bases that will work properly.
It is already tapped for mounts, but I have no idea where I could find scope bases for it. No one lists JC Higgins and no one lists FN Mauser.
Since it is already drilled and taped from the factory I imagine, I don't want to redrill it. A Weaver #46 mount fits on the front receiver, and someone said if that is the case then a Weaver #45 would fit the on rear. The bridge and the receiver are at different levels as is typical of Mausers.
Any help input in helping me find the correct mounting system for this rifle would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
clement@coconet.com
clement1,
I have four of these fine rifles: two are in .270 and two are .30-06 and I like them very much. The scope bases vary on these rifles. I had a local gunsmith drill Weaver scope base blanks to match the receiver holes. On one rifle, he redrilled a Leupold base to match the receiver hole and used epoxy to secure a blind screw in the factory drilled base hole.
The only concern I had with these classic arms was a dislike for the two-piece trigger arrangement. All four of my rifles were fitted with Timney adjustable triggers. All the best...
Gil
clement1
06-25-2005, 04:41 PM
clement1,
I have four of these fine rifles: two are in .270 and two are .30-06 and I like them very much. The scope bases vary on these rifles. I had a local gunsmith drill Weaver scope base blanks to match the receiver holes. On one rifle, he redrilled a Leupold base to match the receiver hole and used epoxy to secure a blind screw in the factory drilled base hole.
The only concern I had with these classic arms was a dislike for the two-piece trigger arrangement. All four of my rifles were fitted with Timney adjustable triggers. All the best...
Gil
Thank you to all for your help. I may have found a mount from someone local that sounds like the Redfield mount MikeG above has. I will see. But I am VERY interested in the Trigger you have Gil. Can you explain a bit more about where to get them and what model to look for. I love the rifle but you are right, that cheesy little pen spring driven trigger doesn't fit the rest of the beauty and quality of this fine rifle.
Thanks,
Clement
clement@coconet.com
Gil Martin
06-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Thank you to all for your help. I may have found a mount from someone local that sounds like the Redfield mount MikeG above has. I will see. But I am VERY interested in the Trigger you have Gil. Can you explain a bit more about where to get them and what model to look for. I love the rifle but you are right, that cheesy little pen spring driven trigger doesn't fit the rest of the beauty and quality of this fine rifle.
Thanks,
Clement
clement@coconet.com
Clement,
Timney has a website at www.timneytriggers.com and you can find the trigger you need. These adjustable triggers are sold by Midway at www.midwayusa.com and others. I used the Sportsman model trigger for an FN Mauser that sells for less than $40. These triggers should be checked and perhaps fitted by a competent gunsmith. I have installed a few of them and was fortunate that everything worked out OK. The critical part is the sear and safety engagement to be reliable and safe. My local gunsmith did the installation for a nominal fee. You can still use the factory safety without any problem. Hope this helps. All the best...
Gil
clement1
06-26-2005, 04:16 PM
Gil,
Yes this does help thank you and again to ALL who helped with the scope mounting question, it was a great relief to find the answer here.
I'm going to look into it. I took the rifle out to the range again today and had the whole place looking at this bit of Americana. Folks scratchin their heads sayin..."yeah, JC Higgins..will ya look at that. I remember `em."
**** thing shoots like a laser! But what a handful. I regularly shoot an `03 Springfield and a k98 Mauser, but this buckaroo is a topper. Never had a 270 before and it is just a flame thrower. Tried 130 grain loads and 110's, and 150's. This rifle can do it all....with iron sights! I understand why Jack O'Connor and some of the other classic great gun fanciers and writers of decades past thought this caliber was perhaps tops maybe inly second chair to the `06. But honestly thsi caliber is more accurate.
The trigger actually has no creep just a solid 5 or 6 pound let off. Not bad really. It just..."fires like it suppopsed to" as one of the good `ole boys said today.
I'll be checking out the Timney though to see if it will make a difference.
Best wishes,
Clement
Fort Myers
Clement,
Timney has a website at www.timneytriggers.com and you can find the trigger you need. These adjustable triggers are sold by Midway at www.midwayusa.com and others. I used the Sportsman model trigger for an FN Mauser that sells for less than $40. These triggers should be checked and perhaps fitted by a competent gunsmith. I have installed a few of them and was fortunate that everything worked out OK. The critical part is the sear and safety engagement to be reliable and safe. My local gunsmith did the installation for a nominal fee. You can still use the factory safety without any problem. Hope this helps. All the best...
Gil
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