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MrHunter
07-20-2005, 11:26 AM
Hi
I think about to get a 22-250, but wounder which brand I should take...

I thinking the Tikka T3 Laminat S/S, are very nice.
But that are YOU thinking???

/ Mr Hunter

faucettb
07-20-2005, 12:46 PM
I personally like Remington's. Are you looking at a heavy bbl varmiter or one you can pack over hill and dale? I shot 22-250's, 220 swifts, 222's, 223's and finally went to the 243 for it's versitality.

The reason for doing so is it can with the right bullets shoot as flat as any of the 22's and with heavier bullets be used for deer, at least in my state where the 224's can't.

If your looking for a vamit only gun, you might look at the new 204 Ruger cartridge. It shoots as flat as a 22-250 with even less recoil and lest cost to reload (so more bang for your buck).

I've looked at the Tikka and they are nice rifles. My hunting buddy just bought a new Savage (really ugly rifle) that shoots really great with the dual piller bedding and the accu-trigger. Nice thing about the Savage is with a bbl wrench, vice and a set of headspace gauges you can interchange any cartridge that will fit the bolt face and action length in about 10 minutes. That means that you can have a 22-250, 243, 308, 30-06, 270 etc with one gun and some of the barrels from Midway. I know several folks whom are doing that.

My hunting buddy bought his in 7mm Rem mag and just ordered a 338 Win mag bbl. This gives him the best of both worlds.

I shoot two varmit rifles, a Remington VLS laminated stock heavy bbl and a Ruger #1B. You wouldn't want to carry the VLS very far in the field, but it's a great sit and shoot rifle. The #1 comes in at 8.5 pounds and isn't to bad to carry.

There are several gunmakers now making light varmit rifles for the carry around in the field folks that offer better accuracy and light weight. It all depends upon what kind of shooting your gonna do.

My next varmit rifle is going to be one of the new CZ 527's with the nice set trigger in 204 Ruger. They come in around 7.5 with a scope and are very accurate out of the box.

Jonas
07-20-2005, 01:43 PM
Hi
I think about to get a 22-250, but wounder which brand I should take...

I thinking the Tikka T3 Laminat S/S, are very nice.
But that are YOU thinking???

/ Mr Hunter


I currently shoot the Tikka T3 Laminated S/S, in .270. Great gun. Great looking, great trigger, good weight, great accuracy...but a bit more spendy than they were a year or two ago. Extra mags are also a little costy. BUT, it's been great so far. If you're thinking of buying used (or new, I suppose), be aware that there was a recall on Sako/Tikka S/S (within a certain serial # range). They fixed mine, no problem. Talk to your dealer. I can give you details if you need them

cheers

jonas

hoeram
07-20-2005, 03:52 PM
I like the remington 700 I have 2 varmint rifles one in a 220 VS 26" bbl the other is a 243 VLS 26" bbl. Both of these shoot great the 220 is a tack driver sub Moa and the 243 shoots Moa at 100 Yds. My friend shoots the 22-250 in a Rem. 700 VS and its a sub Moa rifle. For the money I don't think you'd be unhappy with the performance. Just my thoughts on it.

Hoeram :D

amndouglas
07-20-2005, 04:36 PM
Hi
I think about to get a 22-250, but wounder which brand I should take...

I thinking the Tikka T3 Laminat S/S, are very nice.
But that are YOU thinking???

/ Mr Hunter
Will this rifle be for your Roe deer hunting, or do you have targets and varmints to kill? In either case, I believe one of the Tikka models would be good. If the CZs are easy to get ahold of and reasonably priced, you may want to look into getting one of them. That's what I would have gotten if I hadn't found the deal that I did on my Ruger 223.

I know from talking to you before that our Remingtons and Winchesters are much more expensive over there. Knowing that, I don't think they'd be worth the extra money you would be spending. If I recall correctly, you could actually get a Sako for the price of a Remington or a Winchester.

amndouglas

JR1
07-20-2005, 06:48 PM
I'd be thinking Savage with the AccuTrigger, in either .204 or .223, unless you're hoping to use heavier bullets. My faves right now, even in my .22-250, are the 40 gr VMax's. Marvelous. So the extra powder in the .22-250 goes to waste.

MrHunter
07-21-2005, 11:41 AM
What I going to hunt is, roe deer,fox and crow......

I have found 3 rifle brand:

1. Tikka T3 Laminat S/S = 1275$
2. Ruger KM77 VT = 1100$
3. Sako 75 Stainless = 1487.5$

My local dealer did not advice me to buy a Remingtons, I don´t know why?!?

So................


Thanks / Mr.Hunter

Jonas
07-21-2005, 12:55 PM
What I going to hunt is, roe deer,fox and crow......

I have found 3 rifle brand:

1. Tikka T3 Laminat S/S = 1275$
2. Ruger KM77 VT = 1100$
3. Sako 75 Stainless = 1487.5$

My local dealer did not advice me to buy a Remingtons, I don´t know why?!?

So................


Thanks / Mr.Hunter

$1200??? Jeesh, got my .270 Lam. S/S for less than $700 (new). Those prices seem awfully steep!

jonas

amndouglas
07-21-2005, 09:41 PM
For crows, I would like the Ruger, but they are pretty hefty rifles. How much walking will you be doing with it? They are great for shooting from a rest or bipod, but you'd be alot better off with one of the lighter rifles if you wanted something to shoot off-hand or walk long distances with.

amndouglas

Highpower
07-22-2005, 05:53 AM
I've had several over the years and all were good. My favorite now is my Rem VSSF. Not only does it shoot terrific, but it looks great too! Wouldn't trade it for anything.

MrHunter
07-22-2005, 12:36 PM
$1200??? Jeesh, got my .270 Lam. S/S for less than $700 (new). Those prices seem awfully steep!

jonas


I must say, I want to move to USA... Cheap gun/rifles/ammo.
$1200 is a good price in my country, so $700 Hmmmm!!??!?!

/ Andreas

jb12string
07-22-2005, 08:08 PM
Savage in 204 is my vote, that or a plane ticket

Jonas
07-25-2005, 06:24 AM
I must say, I want to move to USA... Cheap gun/rifles/ammo.
$1200 is a good price in my country, so $700 Hmmmm!!??!?!

/ Andreas

Yup, it was a good deal at the time...not as cheap now.

Someone wanting to move to the US for our guns!! What a concept!! :)

Good luck finding your 22-250.

jonas

oneshotman
07-25-2005, 06:45 AM
I will vote for the Remington 700 VLS. I got one this past Christmas in 22-250 for a little under $500.00 It will do a lot better than I can. I really like the laminated stock. Good luck.

MrHunter
07-30-2005, 01:58 PM
Hello

Now I have my 22-250....

Tikka T3 Laminated S/S - 22-250...

Very nice rifle.., but if´s a joke, why must you buy things to the mount. a scope.. the store say: that you have to buy extra, a barrel without any sight and you have to pay some more to mount a scope????????? if you buy a car you get the steering wheel ?
(A rifle for $1200)

Is this the Tikka policy, I most say; don´t buy this brand!!!

Thanks everyone / MrHunter......

amndouglas
07-30-2005, 09:12 PM
According to the Beretta Web site, they don't even offer the 22-250 in that model to the US customers.

No sense in complaining about the rings not coming with the rifle, regardless of whether it has sights or not. The only manufacturer I can think of who includes rings with the rifle is Ruger.

You'll have to let us know how it shoots. It sure does look nice on the web Site.

amndouglas

jb12string
07-31-2005, 07:08 PM
I would be willing to bet Ruger wouldn't include rings if they weren't specifically made to mount on their rifles

MrHunter
07-31-2005, 11:32 PM
According to the Beretta Web site, they don't even offer the 22-250 in that model to the US customers.

No sense in complaining about the rings not coming with the rifle, regardless of whether it has sights or not. The only manufacturer I can think of who includes rings with the rifle is Ruger.

You'll have to let us know how it shoots. It sure does look nice on the web Site.

amndouglas

I give a report later..... / MrHunter

faucettb
08-01-2005, 12:04 AM
CZ should be available over there and they come with a single set trigger and rings. Sako used to come with a set of rings at one time.

The CZ's are really nice guns. I have one of their 22 long rifles and am really pleased with it.

MrHunter
08-16-2005, 03:20 AM
According to the Beretta Web site, they don't even offer the 22-250 in that model to the US customers.

No sense in complaining about the rings not coming with the rifle, regardless of whether it has sights or not. The only manufacturer I can think of who includes rings with the rifle is Ruger.

You'll have to let us know how it shoots. It sure does look nice on the web Site.

amndouglas

Hi..
Yesterday at the target range, I have the bulls eyes at 300meters (1meter = 1,094yard) ... so now I can hold 3 shoot with in 10mm (0,3937 inch)... but I need a bigger zoom at the scope (3-12 x 56 Zeiss)

Good hunting season! / MrHunter

amndouglas
08-16-2005, 08:51 AM
You were shooting 3-shot groups in 10 millimeters at 300 meters. Is this with the Tikka? Did you use handloads or factory ammunition? I suppose 12X is a little low power for a rifle that can do that. What new scope will you get?

amndouglas

Jonas
08-16-2005, 10:09 AM
According to the Beretta Web site, they don't even offer the 22-250 in that model to the US customers.

No sense in complaining about the rings not coming with the rifle, regardless of whether it has sights or not. The only manufacturer I can think of who includes rings with the rifle is Ruger.

You'll have to let us know how it shoots. It sure does look nice on the web Site.

amndouglas


No rings doesnt make much sense. Mine certainly did (.270), and the replacement they sent after the recall did as well. Maybe the dealer isn't exactly honest?

cheers

jonas

amndouglas
08-16-2005, 11:06 AM
I would be willing to bet Ruger wouldn't include rings if they weren't specifically made to mount on their rifles

True, but other companies don't even do that. For instance, look at Sako. They have their own nonstandard mounting system on the 75s, and they wanted over $100 for the Optilock rings (not included with rifle).

Bottom line is that I went with Leupolds for about half that price, and I couldn't be happier with them.

amndouglas

Jonas
08-16-2005, 12:07 PM
True, but other companies don't even do that. For instance, look at Sako. They have their own nonstandard mounting system on the 75s, and they wanted over $100 for the Optilock rings (not included with rifle).

Bottom line is that I went with Leupolds for about half that price, and I couldn't be happier with them.

amndouglas


But Tikka IS Sako, and the less expensive little brother, at that!

I've seen the Optilocks on the website, but certainly not what came with mine. The good news is that when I returned my rifle, I didn't return the rings. They sent a new gun AND new rings. Now I have a nice set of stainless rings for my next rifle...

cheers

jonas

MrHunter
08-18-2005, 11:19 AM
You were shooting 3-shot groups in 10 millimeters at 300 meters. Is this with the Tikka? Did you use handloads or factory ammunition? I suppose 12X is a little low power for a rifle that can do that. What new scope will you get?

amndouglas


No problem to shoot that good with a good scope, like Zeiss... But it was with the rifle at a table, not a free hand shoot.

I have also try and have the ATN scope, ATN 6-24x75UL... but that´s no good scope for hunting at daylight.. and very hard to adjust...
So I don´t really know which scope I should buy?!?!?! Maby a Swarowski or Leoplod...

/ MrHunter

amndouglas
08-18-2005, 02:04 PM
Scopes like you mention are out of my league. The most I've spent on a scope was just under $400 for a Nikon Monarch UCC 6.5 - 20 x 44mm. Regardless, I believe that the Nikon Monarch series is one of the best values out there. In my opinion, the only advantage to the Leupold's is the extra choices for reticles. However, I don't think a different reticle or any extra clarity (in the case of Zeiss or Swarovski) is worth an extra $500-$1000+. But that's just my opinion, and I won't be shooting in the dark or attempting to pick off flies at 1000 yards with my 223.

amndouglas

Tang
08-18-2005, 09:07 PM
My hunting buddy just bought a new Savage (really ugly rifle).


What is it about the Savages that so many people dislike ? I mean I know the bluing isnt the brightest, and the reciever isnt engraved, but I dont mind my wood stock much. The Synthetic Savage stocks look a bit "toyish" to me, but still not bad. Besides, I bought my rifle to shoot, not look at, and shooting Savages do very well from all the reviews and praise I've heard/read.

Tang
08-18-2005, 09:12 PM
Trijicon Accupoint. Talk about clarity, and the recticle glows, even in low light conditions thanks to the light collector on top of the eye piece. If I was going to spend in the $600 range on a scope, that would be the one. Very nice piece.

amndouglas
08-19-2005, 07:45 AM
What is it about the Savages that so many people dislike ? I mean I know the bluing isnt the brightest, and the reciever isnt engraved, but I dont mind my wood stock much. The Synthetic Savage stocks look a bit "toyish" to me, but still not bad. Besides, I bought my rifle to shoot, not look at, and shooting Savages do very well from all the reviews and praise I've heard/read.

I am really a practical person when it comes to just about everything. My car is just something to get me around, and I couldn't care less about what it looks like as long as it runs good. I don't do a whole lot of decorating where I live because it serves no real purpose. The computers that I've built have never had extra lights, windows or custom paintjobs.

Though function still ranks higher than visual appeal in terms of firearms, I definitely prefer one that looks and shoots good as opposed to one that just shoots good. I'm not real big on the high-gloss Browning style stocks and barrels, but I really like the look of the laminates with stainless and satin walnut with deep blueing. However, I still have my ugly gun, though not as ugly as your Savage ;)

It's a Winchester M70 Classic SM BOSS. Everything except for the bolt surfaces are nonreflective, and the only thing it's missing over a Savage is the barrel nut.

amndouglas

MrHunter
08-19-2005, 09:46 AM
[QUOTE=amndouglas]I am really a practical person when it comes to just about everything. My car is just something to get me around, and I couldn't care less about what it looks like as long as it runs good. I don't do a whole lot of decorating where I live because it serves no real purpose. The computers that I've built have never had extra lights, windows or custom paintjobs.

Though function still ranks higher than visual appeal in terms of firearms, I definitely prefer one that looks and shoots good as opposed to one that just shoots good. I'm not real big on the high-gloss Browning style stocks and barrels, but I really like the look of the laminates with stainless and satin walnut with deep blueing. However, I still have my ugly gun, though not as ugly as your Savage ;)

It's a Winchester M70 Classic SM BOSS. Everything except for the bolt surfaces are nonreflective, and the only thing it's missing over a Savage is the barrel nut.


Hi again, Is it a muzzel brake on the barrel??? On your rifle?.

And I have also get the rifle to hunt. About the scope I must say here in my country is night(early) hunting, so you need a scope for this hunting (fox,roar deer). Normaly I go to Germany for hunting boar, and there total night hunting is the best time.....
In december, I (mayby) go to Yugoslavia for hunting boar and wolf.. Now back to the scope, but the prices for Zeiss and Swavroski is out of my leage... but you have life time warranty.....

We talk about the rings to my Tikka, I have phone the genaral agent and they are out of rings and bases... Leopold quick realse 2 bases I have order, and the have to custom made the for Tikka T3, mayby in 2-3weeks....

Good hunting / MrHunter

amndouglas
08-19-2005, 09:57 AM
Hi again, Is it a muzzel brake on the barrel??? On your rifle?.

And I have also get the rifle to hunt. About the scope I must say here in my country is night(early) hunting, so you need a scope for this hunting (fox,roar deer). Normaly I go to Germany for hunting boar, and there total night hunting is the best time.....
In december, I (mayby) go to Yugoslavia for hunting boar and wolf.. Now back to the scope, but the prices for Zeiss and Swavroski is out of my leage... but you have life time warranty.....

We talk about the rings to my Tikka, I have phone the genaral agent and they are out of rings and bases... Leopold quick realse 2 bases I have order, and the have to custom made the for Tikka T3, mayby in 2-3weeks....

Good hunting / MrHunter

The BOSS is a barrel tuning device that acts as a muzzle brake, but the BOSS-CR provides the same barrel tuning without the brake feature.

Leupold, Nikon and Burris also have lifetime warranties. Most hunting is illegal in the dark here, so I can't help you with your scope choices.

amndouglas

Tang
08-19-2005, 10:28 AM
BSA also has a lifetime warranty and they are very durable scopes for the money.

JR454
08-26-2005, 11:10 AM
Hi There Mr. Hunter,
If you are shooting 10mm groups a 300M, You deserve a Zeiss or Swavroski.....I gaurantee you! A Leupold is hard to beat, and if you are shooting at night, get their tactical scope with a 1 inch tube and illuminated reticle. Those are my suggestions. Good luck.....by the way, what country are you from? Just nosey.

MrHunter
09-04-2005, 09:50 AM
Hi There Mr. Hunter,
If you are shooting 10mm groups a 300M, You deserve a Zeiss or Swavroski.....I gaurantee you! A Leupold is hard to beat, and if you are shooting at night, get their tactical scope with a 1 inch tube and illuminated reticle. Those are my suggestions. Good luck.....by the way, what country are you from? Just nosey.

If you don´t ask you don´t know!

I´m from Sweden, Europe... But also hunt in Germany, Norway, Serbien... I am a hunting freak, if any one invite me to come to hunt, normaly I go!!!
Thanks / Andreas

MrHunter
11-08-2005, 03:23 PM
Hello

Now I have my 22-250....

Tikka T3 Laminated S/S - 22-250...

Very nice rifle.., but if´s a joke, why must you buy things to the mount. a scope.. the store say: that you have to buy extra, a barrel without any sight and you have to pay some more to mount a scope????????? if you buy a car you get the steering wheel ?
(A rifle for $1200)

Is this the Tikka policy, I most say; don´t buy this brand!!!

Thanks everyone / MrHunter......

Now I have the bases, and only have to pay $145,1 for the bases.