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grizz106
08-15-2005, 09:45 AM
wanting to for the longest time to take apart my 94. And curious about the trigger sear engagment, to clean up for "crisp" pull, not making the pull "lighter". Tune up for this is the barrel bands,sights bullets and magazine screw but THE only thing left is my trigger. Is there any good step by step info I can study as I have heard the 94 is a bit trying to take apart?

kciH
08-15-2005, 12:29 PM
I just ordered a DVD that outlines it, I think they are on sale at Midway. I'll let you know if it's worth the $30.

william iorg
08-15-2005, 01:53 PM
http://www.time-slice.com/mohave.gambler/favorites/LeverGuns/Winchester94.htm

http://www.castbullet.com/misc/tdown.htm

http://www.castbullet.com/misc/hspace.htm

http://www.nrapublications.org/tar/Win94ExView.asp

grizz106
08-15-2005, 02:32 PM
William, very good sources. Thankyou. I added them to my file. For the money it may be a good deal-let me know how the quality of the narration and instructions go. Slim gave out very good sites, might want to take a look.

william iorg
08-15-2005, 05:11 PM
If you want a book try J. B. Woods Sporting Rifle Take Down & Assembly Manual. This is a DBI book and Midsouth Shooters Supply had them for a bargin at one time.

The second or third time you take a Model 94 apart you will not even consult the book. It takes me about 15 min to dissasemble one. Of course I dont have any stuck or ugly screw heads!

Always seems to take a little longer to put one back together for me. No difference between the coil and flat spring models. On the flat spring rifles I dont remove the main spring screw I just push the springs down with my thumb. Works great for disassembly but your thumb gets tired when putting things back together!

grizz106
08-15-2005, 07:51 PM
If you want a book try J. B. Woods Sporting Rifle Take Down & Assembly Manual. This is a DBI book and Midsouth Shooters Supply had them for a bargin at one time.

The second or third time you take a Model 94 apart you will not even consult the book. It takes me about 15 min to dissasemble one. Of course I dont have any stuck or ugly screw heads!

Always seems to take a little longer to put one back together for me. No difference between the coil and flat spring models. On the flat spring rifles I dont remove the main spring screw I just push the springs down with my thumb. Works great for disassembly but your thumb gets tired when putting things back together!
Could always use another book. I picked up Sam Fadala's Win. 94-the rifle am. loves and Rifles-a modern Encycl., why not another one as they seem to be good sources of study. I have lots of time here in the bush so that a new "library" will come in handy. I was wondering about the 2 diff. springs as I seen on them sites, as well as the 2 94's I have here a pre and a post 94. Thanks again

william iorg
08-16-2005, 05:18 AM
Grizz,
A feller cant have too many books. I like Sam Fadalas Model 94 book. I like Fadals thoughts on bullet weights for the .30-30. I lean toward heavier bullets with a good SD. For the .30-30AI I like the 150 grain Barnes X, the 170 grain Nosler and the 170 grain Speer. In the standard .30-30 it is hard to beat a 170-180 grain cast bullet. Fadalas comparison of the modern .30-30 and the .243 is well thought out and worth study.
For those who dont have it the prices on both editions are climbing faster than I ever thought they would. I gave away several of the second editions as gifts. I hope those folks like them!
If that Rifles, A Modern Encyclopidia is Dr. Henry Stebbins book (1958?) I think you will like it. His writing style is different. He seems to have been a very knowladgeable gun crank. I wish he would have written of the .50-100-450 in more detail. Also the .25-35. Still lots of interesting stuff.

I like the flat spring Model 94's. The flat springs have a soft feel when stabbing the hammer down as the rifle rises to your shoulder. The coil spring models do not feel the same way "on the rise".

grizz106
08-16-2005, 01:00 PM
something else when Fadala and his friend compared notes at 200yds- 165grn vs. 90grn and the energy levels thereof. I find it very interesting how his one friend had a octagon barrel put on his 94 and shortened the mag. down to a 3 shot and done away with both his bands. I wonder if that place in Montana has them barrels out of curiosity. I would not mind getting one set up for having entirely something different. Still would be easily reloadable even though it is a 3 shotter. It is very thorough book. It did cost me some 50 bucks but in excellent shape. A good source for anyone interested in a thorough read. Rifles is a 1958 copyright-wish there was more on that cal.