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Toshi
09-04-2005, 02:05 AM
Hi all,

New to the forum here. I would really appreciate your opinion about a problem I have had with a new HK USP Compact 9mm I purchased recently (about 1 month). Here is a little bit about myself. I have prior shotting experience with my Walther P22 and Glock 19 9mm. I also had a little bit of training in the military with M16 M4A1.

Here is my problem. I was really excited to get my HK because everywhere i heard its the Mercedes-Benz of hand guns. I have fired about 200 rounds using Remington 115 grain UMC. I cleaned the gun beofore I shot it for the very first time. The first 30 rounds or so were horrible. At 10 yard the bullets were hitting the neighboring targets (couple feets away) and couple rounds were jammed when ejecting. I can understand if it needs some break-in. Now the jamming is gone and it's not off the target as much. But it still tend to shot low for me at 10 yards maybe 5-6in off. I had a friend tried it out and he felt the gun is shotting low too. I had one guy working at the range to try it out. He fired one shot only and it was right on target. He says the gun seems ok. But I never had such problems with my other guns. What possibly could be wrong??? :confused: I really hope the situation will improve or else I just flushed $850 down the tube. All suggestions or possible soultions are welcome. I really need your help guys. Thank you

Rylos1
09-04-2005, 04:01 AM
Hi all,

New to the forum here. I would really appreciate your opinion about a problem I have had with a new HK USP Compact 9mm I purchased recently (about 1 month). Here is a little bit about myself. I have prior shotting experience with my Walther P22 and Glock 19 9mm. I also had a little bit of training in the military with M16 M4A1.

Here is my problem. I was really excited to get my HK because everywhere i heard its the Mercedes-Benz of hand guns. I have fired about 200 rounds using Remington 115 grain UMC. I cleaned the gun beofore I shot it for the very first time. The first 30 rounds or so were horrible. At 10 yard the bullets were hitting the neighboring targets (couple feets away) and couple rounds were jammed when ejecting. I can understand if it needs some break-in. Now the jamming is gone and it's not off the target as much. But it still tend to shot low for me at 10 yards maybe 5-6in off. I had a friend tried it out and he felt the gun is shotting low too. I had one guy working at the range to try it out. He fired one shot only and it was right on target. He says the gun seems ok. But I never had such problems with my other guns. What possibly could be wrong??? :confused: I really hope the situation will improve or else I just flushed $850 down the tube. All suggestions or possible soultions are welcome. I really need your help guys. Thank you


I have the HK USPc in .40 cal. I never had the problems with jamming, but it was a little tougher to get used to shooting, because I found the front end to snap up a little more than my other pistols, ( Glock, SIG, Ruger, Kimber). But after a while I got used to it and shoot it accurately.

ironhead7544
09-04-2005, 06:31 AM
It takes a while to get used to a new gun. Dont give up on it yet. With an auto it sometimes takes a coulpe hundred rounds to smooth out and run right. Make sure its lubed to the makers specs. Once you start shooting good groups with it you can adjust the sights for the load you want to use. HK probably makes different height sights to correct the low shooting.

MikeG
09-04-2005, 07:45 AM
No offense, the gun was not hitting the neighboring targets by accident, that's probably where it was pointed when it went bang. They don't suddenly get accurate.

Sometimes autos will jam a bit until they get shot a few times. However, most jams are probably caused by just not having a firm grip on the gun. And of course lack of maintenance.

Shooting low could be the sights, or flinching. Have someone else load the gun for a few rounds and put a dummy or empty case in the chamber once in a while. You'd be surprised how many new shooters have the gun pointing at the floor after a 'click.'

We all have to start somewhere. If you can get ahold of a decent .22 handgun to practice with, you'll end up way ahead of the game.

whitehunter35
09-05-2005, 12:09 AM
Toshi,

Welcome Friend.

I had one of those guns a few years back, and my issue with it is that it did not point naturally enough to suit me. The pistol was obviously well built, functioned well, and farily accurate, but I had to struggle with it intially to get it on target.

Probably the most common misalignment with a fat waisted pistola is "low lefting". And that is what I am wondering here, as I did muscle the gun an awful lot, which was why I decided to trade it for something else.

Kind of up to you, I have bought, owned, and sold allot of pistols looking for that one that suited me 100%, and still not finding it, In my old age I'm reckoning 90% is close enough.

Good shooting, friend.

Steve

Toshi
09-05-2005, 04:33 AM
First of all, I would like to thank you all for your suggestion, opinion, and time. They are very helpful. I would like to emphasize one point. Although my skill may not be as a skilled professional sniper, I do have some prior shotting experience. I just dont understand why this supposed best handgun is not allowing me to perform as good, if not better, than with other guns I have shot.

Steve, sorry for being ignorant, but would you please explain what you mean by "low lefting" a liittle bit?

I will continue to play with this gun a bit more, and I really hope I can get used to it because I really dont want to sell it.

Once again, thanks all. :)

lumberjak
09-05-2005, 05:46 AM
When you shoot a handgun, the muscles that control your hand, wrist, fingers etc come into play. Kinda hard to explain but if muscles in your wrist contract as you pull the trigger, your point of aim will be pulled off....does that make sense? I'll post a handgun target that might help make sense.

whitehunter35 has a good point, guns fit everone different.



http://www.reloadbench.com/pdf/files/TargetRightHanded.pdf

RDKNG
09-05-2005, 07:26 AM
Toshi- Welcome! May I suggest firing your pistol from a solid rest at a distance of 20-25 ft. from your target. Make sure you have a solid grip on the gun and that the ejection port is not being blocked by the sandbag etc. For a target I use a sheet of unlined notebook paper with a black dot of 2.5-3" in the center. Semiauto handguns of any brand can be finicky. I first eliminate the mechanical error,thenI work on my error. Hang in there!

Toshi
09-05-2005, 11:45 PM
Wooowww lumberjak, that target thing is great!!! I printed it out already. Come to think of it, I may be guilty of pushing forward :eek:

Thanks people, I will continue to work on it; more shotting, solid rest, whatever it takes

BFL
09-06-2005, 12:27 AM
Hi all,

New to the forum here. I would really appreciate your opinion about a problem I have had with a new HK USP Compact 9mm I purchased recently (about 1 month). Here is a little bit about myself. I have prior shotting experience with my Walther P22 and Glock 19 9mm. I also had a little bit of training in the military with M16 M4A1.

Here is my problem. I was really excited to get my HK because everywhere i heard its the Mercedes-Benz of hand guns. I have fired about 200 rounds using Remington 115 grain UMC. I cleaned the gun beofore I shot it for the very first time. The first 30 rounds or so were horrible. At 10 yard the bullets were hitting the neighboring targets (couple feets away) and couple rounds were jammed when ejecting. I can understand if it needs some break-in. Now the jamming is gone and it's not off the target as much. But it still tend to shot low for me at 10 yards maybe 5-6in off. I had a friend tried it out and he felt the gun is shotting low too. I had one guy working at the range to try it out. He fired one shot only and it was right on target. He says the gun seems ok. But I never had such problems with my other guns. What possibly could be wrong??? :confused: I really hope the situation will improve or else I just flushed $850 down the tube. All suggestions or possible soultions are welcome. I really need your help guys. Thank you


Dear Sir,

I have a USP .40 S&W full size and I love it.
Regarding the jamming problem, please see if the spring is installed correctly in your mag.
Regarding the accuracy, you have to practice.

Good luck