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mojowojo
10-19-2005, 05:37 PM
When exactly is the year of manufacture to be consider pre-war m94. is it made prior to 1943 or 1942?? Sorry, skip out of history class during school. :D

manyplews
10-19-2005, 06:06 PM
When exactly is the year of manufacture to be consider pre-war m94. is it made prior to 1943 or 1942?? Sorry, skip out of history class during school. :D

The Japs attacked Pearl Harbor on Dec.7,1941 and the US declared war on them immediately and as I recall,Hitler declared war on the US right away.
Roosevelt had tried to keep the US out of the actual fighting even though we had been sending a lot of supplies and equipment to Britain for a good while.
George Madis' book shows 48,883 Model 1894's made in 1941,29,981 made in 1942.Production figures for 1943 thru 1948 are unknown,but it's likely that the Winchester factories were loaded with war production orders.
It's ironic that when England was threatened by invasion from the Nazi's,they had few private arms for their citizens because of restrictive gun laws.My father-in-law told me that England had made public requests for US citizens to donate privately-owned rifles so they could arm their citizens. He said that there notices in the local papers with collection points set up where you could drop off your rifle.
Wonder what the heck the Limeys would do today if they were attacked? Their gun laws are really restrictive now.
Not being a big-time collector,I can't answer your question specifically,but I'd venture that 1941 is the last pre-war year.

DLS
10-26-2005, 09:54 PM
mojowojo,

It doesn't necessarily go by dates, but by features. Such as, Winchester logo on upper tang (also drilled & taped for tang sights), checkered hammer etc. Normally, any pre-Flatband is considered a pre-war.

TXGUN
11-02-2005, 01:45 PM
Normally, any pre-Flatband is considered a pre-war.

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Maybe to some collectors, but not to me. All flatbands were manufactured post-war. Importantly (for me) flatbands do not have the Winchester logo on the tang unless, of course, it's non-collectable parts gun. Unless I can document manufacture prior to 1940-1941, I do do consider a gun to be pre-war.

DLS
11-02-2005, 02:01 PM
TXGUN

I believe if you reread my post, that is basically what I said?

If the gun was made in 1942, with all the pre-war features, it would be considered a pre-war no? Seeing as to how there are no known records for 1943 thru '48 and Winchesters known penchant for using up old stock, serials only give us a rough idea of when the gun may have been assembled.

TXGUN
11-02-2005, 02:16 PM
TXGUN

I believe if you reread my post, that is basically what I said?

If the gun was made in 1942, with all the pre-war features, it would be considered a pre-war no? Seeing as to how there are no known records for 1943 thru '48 and Winchesters known penchant for using up old stock, serials only give us a rough idea of when the gun may have been assembled.


Sorry, I did misread your previous post. And yes, you ARE correct!

DLS
11-02-2005, 02:23 PM
No need to apologize Tex, I figured that's what happened.
I know you to be pretty **** sharp when it comes to Winnys.
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