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3rexII7
10-31-2005, 10:14 AM
Hello. Has anyone here ever tried the 84M Kimber (Long Classic to be exact) in .308? I was just wondering how it well it shoots. The name Kimber may already tell it all, but man I love the stock and checkering done on the 84Ms. Very Nice looking rifles. Just want to hear your experiences and opinions.

gringo_loco
10-31-2005, 10:35 AM
I have not shot this rifle, but I have read a lot about it. They are very nice. I held one in my hands at a gun show in Pasadena ... very light and beautiful balance. As you say, the asthetics speak for itself. By all accounts it is a quality rifle and should be accurate with pillar bedding and free floated barrels. Incidentally, the vendor was asking $700 for the one I was looking at.

tpv
10-31-2005, 10:43 AM
Hello. Has anyone here ever tried the 84M Kimber (Long Classic to be exact) in .308? I was just wondering how it well it shoots. The name Kimber may already tell it all, but man I love the stock and checkering done on the 84Ms. Very Nice looking rifles. Just want to hear your experiences and opinions.
I had that rifle in 7mm-08.
It was beautiful, and it shot great. It was so pretty, I hated to use it. So, it turned itself into a Beretta Extrema 3 1/2" shot gun.

The Kimber, was so slender in the stock that I would have said it was a little fragile if it wasn't a Kimber. But the quality speaks for itself. I would need to look real hard to find anything wrong with it.
Good Luck

jim johnson
10-31-2005, 11:15 AM
I have a kimber 8400 in 270wsm and it shoots very good. So good that i've ordered the long classic in 22-250.

Jaywalker
10-31-2005, 11:29 AM
Things to consider:

- The 84 had some teething problems early on - notably a mis-set CNC machine that caused the bolt throw to be less than smooth, but that's fixed now for new or recent purchases.

- The receiver bridge is short - that's what helps make a lower weight rifle. With a short rear bridge, there's less room for scope mount adjustments. That puts the scope closer to your eye than you expect. I was unable to use a Leupold variable, as the power adjuster ring hit the scope ring before it was far enough forward. Fixed power scopes worked fine.

- The stock is very straight with little drop at comb/heel. This required me to use medium-height rings, even with a scope objective bell that could fit lower.

- Scope mount selections are very poor. All I could find was various brands of the poorly-designed "standard" mounts, with the rear windage adjustment. Warne used to make excellent steel Weaver-style mounts, but were asked to stop making them by Kimber.

- The M84 now comes standard with the three-position safety made famous by Winchester. Earlier models used a two-position, if either's important to you.

- Stock was good wood and good wood-to-metal fit, with a very neat job of bedding.

- Accuracy was very, very sensitive to action screw tightness. There are still occasional reports of people sending their 84's back to the factory for accuracy issues - 3 and 4 inches at 100 yards. These two facts may be related or may not be.

- Trigger was excellent out of the box, but made slightly worse with the installation of a new sear at the factory.

Jaywalker

Gunslinger2005
10-31-2005, 04:01 PM
I have a Kimber 84M Varmint in .22-250 that I got in September 2003. It has the old style two position safety. I have it set up with a Leupold Vari-X III 4.5-14X50mm scope, with Leupold base and rings.

It has nice wood and checkering, and good metal to wood fit. It operates very smoothly. I have the factory trigger adjusted down to a 1.9 lbs pull weight.

It's very accurate with a number of different loads, but I prefer heavier weight bullets and primarily use 50 or 52 grain bullets because it shoots these better than the 55's. The 84M is my first choice for a varmint rifle if I'll be doing a lot of walking.

All of the Kimbers I've looked at and handled have been very nice. I'm very pleased with my Kimber, and would recommend them very highly if you're looking for a rifle in that price range.

3rexII7
10-31-2005, 04:11 PM
- Accuracy was very, very sensitive to action screw tightness. There are still occasional reports of people sending their 84's back to the factory for accuracy issues - 3 and 4 inches at 100 yards. These two facts may be related or may not be.


Ok... does that concern with todays 84M because if it is I dont even want to bother to look at these beautiful, fine, sexy rifles. It's just the look and feel that's seducing me, but if it were accurate I would probably marry one. ;)

Another question: What is the difference between Sporter Barrel and Fluted Bull Barrel? Is there a significant difference between the two when it comes to accuracy, noise level, or looks?

Last question: Is there something "different" about the Long Master Classic that makes it "different" from the other 84Ms? Thanks for your time.

tpv
10-31-2005, 04:14 PM
Things to consider:

- The 84 had some teething problems early on - notably a mis-set CNC machine that caused the bolt throw to be less than smooth, but that's fixed now for new or recent purchases.

- The receiver bridge is short - that's what helps make a lower weight rifle. With a short rear bridge, there's less room for scope mount adjustments. That puts the scope closer to your eye than you expect. I was unable to use a Leupold variable, as the power adjuster ring hit the scope ring before it was far enough forward. Fixed power scopes worked fine.

- The stock is very straight with little drop at comb/heel. This required me to use medium-height rings, even with a scope objective bell that could fit lower.

- Scope mount selections are very poor. All I could find was various brands of the poorly-designed "standard" mounts, with the rear windage adjustment. Warne used to make excellent steel Weaver-style mounts, but were asked to stop making them by Kimber.

- The M84 now comes standard with the three-position safety made famous by Winchester. Earlier models used a two-position, if either's important to you.

- Stock was good wood and good wood-to-metal fit, with a very neat job of bedding.

- Accuracy was very, very sensitive to action screw tightness. There are still occasional reports of people sending their 84's back to the factory for accuracy issues - 3 and 4 inches at 100 yards. These two facts may be related or may not be.

- Trigger was excellent out of the box, but made slightly worse with the installation of a new sear at the factory.

Jaywalker
You just mentioned the one thing that I didn't like about mine.
I had to use the extended mounts to set my 4-12 leupold out to where I had the right eye relief. I didn't like that and though that was a design flaw that I didn't like enough to keep it. I'm real picky. I think the overall size of the rifle was a bit small for my frame.
Otherwise, a beautiful rifle.