I'm looking to bump up to the 358 bullet, and would appreciate any insights.

Had decided to build a 35 Whelen on a mauser action, but got sidetracked...

Now I will buy off the rack when I can afford it...either a 35 WHelen or a 350 Rem mag. I don't particularly like the BLR in 358...it's too short.

The Rem 673 in 350 Rem mag is a beautiful rifle w/ the laminated stock. And there's a lot of choices for 35 Whelen.

Thanks for any help w/ my choice.

i have the 673 guide gun and i really like it. i removed the barrel rib in the interest of weight savings (the screw hole fillers from the scope mount holes fit the screw holes under the rib) and installed a Gentry three position safety on it and it's now the first rifle i grab when i go after big things.
Ruger chambers their M77MKII in .350 Remington Mag also, and it might cost less than the Remington. i'd still spend the extra for the Remington, even tho i own and use many Rugers.

the Whelen is basically a ballistic twin for the .350 RM and is a sweet caliber in it's won right. i guess it boils down to what you can get your hands on when you can afford one. i wanted the 673 to reduce the wear and tear on my model 600.

did i say i really like the guide rifle. i don't think you can go wrong with one.

monty

I've got to agree with monty, I've had several rugers and they all have ended up as trading material. It's not that they are bad guns, but when they dropped the adjustable trigger I've changed over to Remington. My favorite is turning out to be a 280 mountian rifle with a beautiful trigger.

The 673 comes with a 22 inch bbl which is the same as my mountian rifle and not quite a carbine, but, will give you better velocity.

Anyway I've done a bunch of Ruger triggers, they can be fixed, but your better off putting an aftermarket trigger on the Ruger. Ruger does offer the controlled round feeding that some shooters consider a plus. Personnaly I just like the Remingtons, though I have an old Ruger #1 in 243 that does coyotes and ground squirrels a job.

DOes the Rem 673 cramp reloading the longer heavier bullets? It's a short action like the Model 7, isn't it?

the 673 is basically a Remington Model 7. and yes, the heavy bullets will need to be seated somewhat deep to fit the magazine. this is taken into account with the loading data, as the remington 600 has basically the same magazine length as the model 7. these two rifles account for the bulk of .350 Remington .350s. this means that max. loads are supposed to be safe when loaded to fit the Rem M7 mag. so any velocity gains above what the M7 can do will only be gotten by a longer barrel length or exceeding the published loading data and seating the bullets out. i don't reccomend this as the Remington .350 already is loaded to one of the highest SAAMI pressures of any sporting cartridge.
for now i've settled on the 225 grain bullets for most of my reloads, but have used the 250 grain bullets now and then. i load these pretty heavy and seated out as far as the mag will accept reliably. this combination gives me the warm fuzzy feeling. :D

monty

Gents,

My 350 is a 700 CLassic, and it is my favorite. I think the only fly on it, already mentoined, is that some bullets may be a shade long, but that is the clear minority. I have loaded 250 Noslers and Horn RN is this rifle without issue, although it does take some care getting to seating depth. Also, ball powder (748, 2520) does better with these loads that "intrude", as they give you more space to work with, and produce higher velocities.

Nothing at all the matter with a 35 Whelen, would like to have one as well if I could justify it.

Welcome to the clan of the 35, I think you will be extremely pleased- both on the range and at the lodge pole.

Best,

Steve

Unless your stuck with the idea of a short action I'd get the 35 Whelen. In a pinch you can probably get shells for it WalMart if you have to. :D

I'm looking to bump up to the 358 bullet, and would appreciate any insights.

Had decided to build a 35 Whelen on a mauser action, but got sidetracked...

Now I will buy off the rack when I can afford it...either a 35 WHelen or a 350 Rem mag. I don't particularly like the BLR in 358...it's too short.

The Rem 673 in 350 Rem mag is a beautiful rifle w/ the laminated stock. And there's a lot of choices for 35 Whelen.

Thanks for any help w/ my choice.


Once I worked out my loads for my Whelen, I have fallen in love with it. I just took my first whitetail with it this past weekend. The deer never took a step, just fell over immediately. I use the 225 grain Nosler boat tail balistic tips. I have a new Remington 700 CDL.

Once I worked out my loads for my Whelen, I have fallen in love with it. I just took my first whitetail with it this past weekend. The deer never took a step, just fell over immediately. I use the 225 grain Nosler boat tail balistic tips. I have a new Remington 700 CDL.

i have those 225 BT's loaded for my 35 Whelen AI for next weeks whitetail adventure... how did the bullet perform internally? what is your pet load for the gun? i have a feeling they're gonna be very good for whitetail... 7mm 150's are kinda flighty for me in performance... only reason i ask...

congrats on your score...

too many choices!

I kinda like the short action idea w/ the Rem 673/350 RMag, but not at the expense of performance w/ 250 grainers. A 700 action's not an option anymore.

ANother option is the 35 whelen in Rem 7600...also a 22" gun. But the 7600's I've seen lately look a little flimsy compared to a bolt action. The price is right though. Much cheaper than a 673 or a CDL.

the .350 Remington Magnum gives up nothing to the 35 Whelen with the 250 grain bullets. my Nosler reloading manual (#4) lists 2506 fps for the highest velocity from the 35 Whelen from any powder. the highest velocity for the .350 Remington Magnum (again with the 250 grain bullets) is shown at 2571 fps. this is with the OAL of the .350 at 2.8" (fits the model 7 magazine) AND the .350 was tested with a 22" barrel while the Whelen was tested with a 24" barrel. so in this particular case the RM outperforms the Whelen by 65fps with a 2" shorter barrel.

other manuals will have different numbers, but you can expect no practical difference between the two.either one will make you a happy man

monty

I love my 350 mag in 673. The rifle fits me better than many other rifles I own. It just feels natural and shoulders quickly. I have a Burris 1.75-5x20 on it and it works well in the timber covered hills in the east. Plus I have yet to see a deer run out of site when shot. On game performance will be the same with the whelen if you so choose.

just for kicks and giggles, I'll throw out a savage/stevens with a Boyds JRS stock rebarreled to 35 whelen (you could even go AI with it if you were feeling adventerous)

just for kicks and giggles, I'll throw out a savage/stevens with a Boyds JRS stock rebarreled to 35 whelen (you could even go AI with it if you were feeling adventerous)

Sorry...not familiar w/ the rifle. Is it a bolt action? Still produced?

The 35 whelen AI is pretty nifty!

i have those 225 BT's loaded for my 35 Whelen AI for next weeks whitetail adventure... how did the bullet perform internally? what is your pet load for the gun? i have a feeling they're gonna be very good for whitetail... 7mm 150's are kinda flighty for me in performance... only reason i ask...

congrats on your score...

225 Nossler BT Balistic tip with 50 grains of H335, shooting an average of 2530 fps. I had a VERY large exit hole. It hit ribs going in and coming out. In my rifle, I could not seat the bullet a full caliber to have the correct distance to the lans, but it has not seemed to be a problem at all. I have only put 50 rounds of that load through the gun.

Sorry, should have been more clear, I meant the savage 110 series and its near twin, Stevens Model 200. The stevens is pretty much identical without the accutrigger and with a metal finish that barely isn't as nice as the savage, All the aftermarket savage parts fit the stevens. If you are not familar with the savage bolt actions, they are extremely easy to rebarrel due to the design that uses a nut to headspace the barrel. All you need is an way to hold either the barrel or action (e.g. barrel vise or action vise) a special wrench to loosen the barrel nut and a set of headspace gauges. ER Shaw www.ershawbarrels.com has barrels available for about $135. you can see the savages at www.savagearms.com and there is a wealth of info about all things savage at www.savageshooters.com it is hosted by sharp shooter supply, which is supposed to be the one of the best savage gunsmiths in the country. Figure $275 for a LA Stevens, $60 for a timney trigger $65 for a Boyds JRS Classic Laminate stock and $135 for barrel and you are still less than the price of a Remington

I think I'm still liking the Rem 673 best.

How's the accuracy? I looked at some articles on the web about the Rem 673 and the accuracy reported didn't seem to be anything to write home about.

Do they come w/ floated barrels?

Thanks,

Stevens
http://www.savagearms.com/st_200long.htm

Or something a little nicer out of the box:
http://www.savagearms.com/114u.htm

The savages and stevens are gaining a reputation for outstanding out of the box accuracy, mine keeps em under an inch with several loads, some as low as .658