Good evening,

I just picked up my new Remington 673 in 350 Rem mag.

Absolutely gorgeous gun...with the execption of the stupid feature the lawyers added that prevents the bolt from closing.

WHen that "safety" feature is disabled so you can actually use the rifle, the ridiculus red dot stares at you to let you know that the bolt can be closed...duh!

It has to go! ANybody know how to get that stupoid little cylinder out of the bolt? I've never dismantled a Remington bolt, but I suppose if I could get the shroud off, the little bugger could be unscrewed and pulled out.

ANy help appreciated...this cannot stand.

If you want to be rid of this feature, the only good way is to buy a bolt shroud without the bolt lock. You can get one at Brownell's...about $60, I think. Personally, this is much ado about nothing. If you don't want to use the lock... just don't. There's no reason to wet your pants over it.

If you want to be rid of this feature, the only good way is to buy a bolt shroud without the bolt lock. You can get one at Brownell's...about $60, I think. Personally, this is much ado about nothing. If you don't want to use the lock... just don't. There's no reason to wet your pants over it.


I strongly disagree...simplicity and aesthetics are very important. ANd it's also important not to be treated like an idiot by an American company.

Sure...I can cover up the red dot w/ a spot of black paint or, per your suggestion, buy a new shroud. But why should I have to put up w/ the nuisance at all?

This is symptomatic of a lot of things that are wrong with our no-risk, legalistic culture. It's a feel good, bxxx-sxxx feature that doesn't belong on a hunting rifle. Put the red dots on rolexes and tennis rackets for all I care, but leave them off of my firearms.

ANd I'll wet my pants and piss on the lawyers if I want to.

i agree with you leverite... i have a CDL with the stupid little contraption... i'll be replacing the bolt shroud eventually.. but there's another chunk of money out of my pocket.. but it's the principle of the matter...

now the SPS i bought about the same time DID NOT have the shroud lock... i believe remington has done away with this feature on all current production rifles..

By all means, wet your pants....and "whizz on the lawyers" to your heart's content.....fine by me. I must wonder though, if you get SO upset over a minor issue like this - how do you deal with MAJOR issues ? Have a heart attack....or "go postal" and kill 12 people ? You must spend a lot of time in hospital...or in the psych ward.

Too funny.

:D :D :D

i agree with you leverite... i have a CDL with the stupid little contraption... i'll be replacing the bolt shroud eventually.. but there's another chunk of money out of my pocket.. but it's the principle of the matter...

now the SPS i bought about the same time DID NOT have the shroud lock... i believe remington has done away with this feature on all current production rifles..


Thanks for the support. Why have something on the shroud that serves no real purpose and is a potential failure point?

My 673 is supposed to be a 2005 production rifle.

Do you know how to get the shroud off? Is it like a Mauser where after pulling out the firing pin/shroud assembly from the bolt body, you push down on the firing pin and rotate the cocking piece to disassemble?

I see on the Remington there's a pin that appears to hold the firing pin in the cocking piece. Maybe driving that out, frees the shroud?

You are correct, leverite. The pin of which you spoke is that which holds the firing pin assembly together. Remove it...and the shroud can be removed.

By the way, sorry if I offended you. I stand by my comments - it is a small matter. Nevertheless, it is YOUR choice. Good luck with the conversion.

You are correct, leverite. The pin of which you spoke is that which holds the firing pin assemby together. Remove it...and the shroud can be removed.

By the way, sorry if I offended you. I stand by my comments - it is a small matter. Nevertheless, it is YOUR choice. Good luck with the conversion.

tumbledown, thanks for the help.

You didn't offend me at all, I was afraid I might have offended you. SOme things I couldn't care less about, but hunting rifles I do.

I'm an engineer. Elegance, functionality, simplicity and beauty of design are just as important to me in a rifle as they are in a Beethoven symphony. ANd I don't want a useless hole in the side of the shroud to collect and transmit water and crud into the bolt and possibly freeze up when I'm hunting elk at zero degrees. APparently a lot of others feel the same way or you wouldn't see so many after market shrouds at Brownells.

And I only spent a few years in the psych ward after going postal and killing 12 people. THis is my first new rifle since they let me out! Had to have a friend buy it for me because of the stupid gun laws...but, don't get me started on that.

Well, leverite, we're on common ground. I too, am an engineer by profession. I also much prefer the elegance of simplicity. I certainly agree that the Rem. bolt lock is not much of a good idea. I can see it's use, if one has children...and no secure storage for guns. I mostly just ignored the bloody thing, though. It amused me that you were so upset about it. However, I probably shouldn't have been so quick to make light of your feelings on the matter. Again, my apologies.

In truth, it is a matter of no consequence to me, at this point. I sold off the last of my "commercial" rifles, many months ago....in favor of milsurp Mausers. I very much like the simple, basic (and elegant in it's own way) design....as well as the bulletproof "workhorse" nature of them. I think no one will ever call them "pretty"...but, they have a certain beauty of their own. My current favorite is a Yugoslav M48...all mis-matching parts. It isn't worth a dime, as a collector's piece...and most would describe it as a "beater"....but I have put some considerable efforts into tweaking and improving it's operation. Also, I have worked over the cosmetic aspects a bit ...and I think, turned it into a reasonably attractive rifle. As for results, it is nearly as good as any commercial rifle I've ever owned. Yet, I have a grand total of about $230 in it, including all of the work I've done. I truly love the fact that few would ever give it a second look...and most would dismiss it out of hand. Until we compare targets, that is.

Anyway, good luck with the bolt shroud. I hope that you are able to transform your Remington into that which will please you.

I hear you on the old Mausers. I have an old Columbian Steyr that was rebarrelled to 308 that I've been working on...cleaning rust, etc.

It is ugly...but it sure can shoot!

on my 673 i threw the j-lock shroud in the trash and installed a three position safety. this is a fairly difficult installation, but it killed two birds with one stone. got rid of the j-lock and gave me the Winchester style safety. the j-lock may be fine for some people, but i don't want one on my gun. (there are several cases of the S&W revolver lock failing. one locked itself under recoil and one came apart under recoil)
i believe that both Brownell's and Midway sell the old style bolt shroud. probably a pretty popular item. be aware that you will need an old style firing pin also, and some of the replacement shrouds are matte black instead of polished blue. it may be easiest to get the shroud/striker assembly since all you can use from the old assembly is the mainspring and small cross pin that holds the parts togather. (maybe the cocking piece too, but i can't remember about that)

good luck with your new rifle. mine is my favorite rifle, over even an expensive custom rifle.

monty

monty

leverite, swapped mine out with a Holland assembly. You'd appreciate this craftsmenship in detail as you stated you are a engineer. I have a .375RUM used for big critters and for what it is worth it has no business on any rifle especially one that wants revenge after it is hit. The thought of it "screwing" up a fine opportunity has no business on my rifles. Simple replacement, asides they (Hollands) offer more Remington "stuff" replacements-check them out before you buy a Remington duplicate from Brownells.
http://www.hollandguns.com

grizz, what's the web address for Holland's? i've been looking for a steel trigger gaurd/floorplate for mine. found a couple for the 700s but nothing for the M7/673. maybe they have one.

monty

grizz, what's the web address for Holland's? i've been looking for a steel trigger gaurd/floorplate for mine. found a couple for the 700s but nothing for the M7/673. maybe they have one.

monty
monty, the website is on previous thread an as for a good solid trigger guard I got in touch with the Dakota outfit for a triggerguard and floor plate-in the white. My stock trigger has got to go as yet other than that is is ready to be counted on reliably.

thanks for the great info. figures they'd screw up the firing pin as well as the shroud.

Sorta like removing BORG implants from "7 of 9".

HMMM...it isn't even close to doing anything w/ "7 of 9" unfortunately.

If you would have bought the savage, you wouldn't have that problem, now would you. :D

If you would have bought the savage, you wouldn't have that problem, now would you. :D

You make a good point. But if I'd gone w/ the Savage, I'd still be looking for someone to mount the 35 barrel and headspace. Instead, I'm loading ammo and will be shooting real soon.

Gotta say though that this new Remington is far below my last Remington in quality (a 1990's 700 BDL). The floorplate/magazine is very flimsy.

It may be time to try a Savage, I have a son coming up that could be due a new Savage for a BD present next year.