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Kamate
01-14-2006, 04:49 PM
Hey all went out hunting bilies yesterday nailed 3 big bodied billys myself unfortunately no pics of them as they were miles from the car that I very wisely left the camera in. I also nailed a little black kid on the run at 150m. We shot 9 goats all up and a heap of bunnies later that night.

kdub
01-14-2006, 08:09 PM
Sounds like a lot of gutting and cleaning to me! :p

Dave H
01-23-2006, 01:26 AM
Hey all went out hunting bilies yesterday nailed 3 big bodied billys myself unfortunately no pics of them as they were miles from the car that I very wisely left the camera in. I also nailed a little black kid on the run at 150m. We shot 9 goats all up and a heap of bunnies later that night.

Nicely done Old Son ! Nicely done !

Dave

kombi1976
01-23-2006, 03:49 AM
Top effort, Kamate!
Where abouts were you hunting, BTW?

Kamate
02-14-2006, 11:12 PM
Here we go I hope this picture works. I was hunting on a mates property near Manilla/Uralla in the New England.

kombi1976
02-15-2006, 04:00 AM
Here we go I hope this picture works. I was hunting on a mates property near Manilla/Uralla in the New England.
Ummm, can't see a pic, Kamate.......:confused:

Kamate
03-16-2006, 01:00 PM
Hey I got the picture to work!

kombi1976
03-16-2006, 03:13 PM
Looks good, Kamate.
Tell me, were you using the Taipan 174gn HPBTs you've talked about before?
Meant to ask, how is your other SMLE that you were having scoped?
Is it finished or still at the gunsmiths?

Kamate
03-22-2006, 09:17 PM
No I was using Remington 180grain SP and I'll never use them on goats again expansion was way too slow and exit wounds were just a neat hole even bone shattering shots did bugger all. The first billy i hit was about 200m out across a paddock (NO cover!) square behind the shoulder and slightly away it should ahve smashed his off shoulder and really dropped him on the spot but the 180's were just too much weight and too tough and didn't open up much at all. I still swear by the 170 grain Tiapan HPBT's I usually use but we ran out and my gun shop is crappy! I got rid of the other 303 I bought off my mate. We tried everything but couldn't get it to group less than 6inches at 100m! I traded it in on a Rossi 44-40 saddle carbine (perfect fot the thick stuff down here around Albury!) I have a spare stock for a 303 so I'm gonna find a chopped 303 (i'd NEVER cut up a military one!) to butcher into a carbine and I think I'll do a bit of a tyro/yank thing to it and cam it up desert style just because i can and i don't take myself too seriously LOL. I wonder what the bench rest guys at the range will say I might tell them its a Number 3 Mk IV.5 or something LMAO. open sights for it but I might go a peep sight gost ring style for faster targeting.

kombi1976
03-23-2006, 02:10 AM
No I was using Remington 180grain SP and I'll never use them on goats again expansion was way too slow and exit wounds were just a neat hole even bone shattering shots did bugger all. The first billy i hit was about 200m out across a paddock (NO cover!) square behind the shoulder and slightly away it should ahve smashed his off shoulder and really dropped him on the spot but the 180's were just too much weight and too tough and didn't open up much at all. I still swear by the 170 grain Tiapan HPBT's I usually use but we ran out and my gun shop is crappy!
Sounds annoyingly familiar.
Those Remingtons are supposed to be really good on deer but deer are not goats.
There used to be 2 stores in my town and now there's one.
They only stock "what's popular"....read:"what we feel like". :mad:
They also charge about 10% above other stores anywhere. :rolleyes:

I got rid of the other 303 I bought off my mate. We tried everything but couldn't get it to group less than 6inches at 100m!
That bad, huh?
It's usually best to start with a rifle that'll group around 1.5" to 2" for 100yds and then scope it.
That way you're making the job easier.
But hey, we all learn the hard way! ;)

I traded it in on a Rossi 44-40 saddle carbine (perfect fot the thick stuff down here around Albury!)
Well at least you scored a nice replacement.
I've heard nothing but excellent things about those rifles. :D
Many people have said that once they've had a few shots through them and the actions and all slicked up they're a better rifle than the Winchesters.


I have a spare stock for a 303 so I'm gonna find a chopped 303 (i'd NEVER cut up a military one!) to butcher into a carbine and I think I'll do a bit of a tyro/yank thing to it and cam it up desert style just because i can and i don't take myself too seriously LOL. I wonder what the bench rest guys at the range will say I might tell them its a Number 3 Mk IV.5 or something LMAO. open sights for it but I might go a peep sight gost ring style for faster targeting.
A carbine........mmmm.
Well, best of luck.
There are plenty of chop jobs out there.
Just be ready for the recoil.
The difference is, well, considerable. :(
I do like the idea of the desert cam though.
Have you thought about putting a red dot sight on it for the full military carbine look.
Makes it good for night shooting too.

Kamate
03-23-2006, 11:35 AM
I didn't think about a red dot sight lol that would look very wanky! COOL! :D. The recoil won't be a hassle really because well I'm a sucker for punishment on that goat hunting rip we took my mates 450 Nitro Express (insert evil laugh here) 75 pound at the shoulder! It was AWESOME funnily enough the only thing we shot with it was a rabbit from 5 feet 400grain slug 100 grains of powder OH YEAH it certainly would make a good fox rifle too LOL. But yeah for the 303, a)get a chopped one, b) saw barrel to 50cm <not me a gunsmith that is> c)get barrel recrowned d)drill and tap for RED DOT sight e) install QD swivels and sling f) enjoy the cheapness of a new toy and the compact firepower and noise that truely is a cabine 303 (insert massive dopey grin here)

Dave H
03-23-2006, 07:42 PM
That Rossi,I'll be just the ticket for thick scrub I went down to my Gun guy's to pick one up in 44-40 but walked out with a Trapper in 30-30 :confused: some time ago but I owned a 357 Rossie for years & loved the action!

Erm chopped .303's aye? 50cm barrels aye? :confused: I've never seem this done as I have always been a prude (says the man who cut one down to 40cm for a certain little job that entailed a property that boarderd a National park ! Nuff said about that :eek: ) Hey why not they turn heads & burst the ear drums of the unsuspecting ! To say nothing of a muzzle flash that you can read by at night ! Yeah go for it !

Dave

kombi1976
03-23-2006, 08:48 PM
I didn't think about a red dot sight lol that would look very wanky! COOL! :D
Hey, mate, anytime I can make constructive suggestions just ask away. :p
BTW, since Dave reckons it'll be a flame thrower why not machine a little flash suppressor.
Nothing massive but just cool looking.
As far as I know they aren't illegal.
It'll add to that military look! ;)

Kamate
03-26-2006, 04:14 AM
Thats a TOP IDEA! A flash suppresser would be AWESOME! Consider it done! I can't wait to start this project it is gonna be SO FUN!!! I'll get step by step pics fo you all so we can document this amazing change from a piece of history to a ridiculously chopped and tricked 303. Keep the ideas coming guys!

kombi1976
03-26-2006, 04:52 AM
Hey, I've got an idea for a new TV show........

"Pimp My Rifle!!" :D :D

Dave H
03-26-2006, 04:26 PM
Hey, I've got an idea for a new TV show........

"Pimp My Rifle!!" :D :D



I WANNA BE THE HOST OF THE SHOW !!!!!!!!!!!!! CAN I?? CAN I?? PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESE???????????

Shawn Crea
03-27-2006, 07:28 PM
Kamate,
I'm just curious, how are those goats for eating? From your pics, looks like they could be some fine tablefare. Are they "feral" and therefore open season, and bag as many as you can? Or are they somewhat in the varmint class?

Dave H
03-27-2006, 08:38 PM
These Goats are Feral & the younger ones make excellent eating (very much like lamb ) The Older ones are as tough as a Mother in laws hide & stink to high heaven ! There is a open season on them although many Farmers are starting to trap them for sale as Pet food & to a lesser extent human consumption ! They are quite oftern refered to as the Common mans Big Game!

Dave

kombi1976
03-27-2006, 09:20 PM
They're feral, Shaun, and officially it's no bag limit but on more & more properties the owner has a muster every now and again and rounds up the goats for live export.
With droughts being a big factor over the past several years any income is good income.
The Middle East market has a high demand for goats and since they survive when everything else dies goats still manage to get by.
In fact often the roos are even looking boney and yet the mobs of goats are healthy and well fed.
You can quite easily eat feral goat and as far as I know they tend to have less diseases than other game but DaveH will tell you they really smell.
The older ones tend to be quite stringy and tough too so you want to get the young 'uns if you plan on a feed.

Shawn Crea
03-28-2006, 05:47 PM
Kombi & Dave,
Thanks for the info. Sounds like some good fun down there.

aussiecolector
03-31-2006, 12:33 AM
Thats a TOP IDEA! A flash suppresser would be AWESOME! Consider it done! I can't wait to start this project it is gonna be SO FUN!!! I'll get step by step pics fo you all so we can document this amazing change from a piece of history to a ridiculously chopped and tricked 303. Keep the ideas coming guys!

Sounds like you want a jungle carbine. But dont butcher up one of those.

Kamate
03-31-2006, 08:09 PM
No I don't want a jungle carbine (No 5 Mk I or II) I want to chop an already sportered 303, I'm one of the most 303 obcessed people I know and I won't hack a standard 303 (in any variant) to pieces. I have a 1919 Lithgow number 1 MkIII and plan on a martini and one day maybe a Ross rifle($$$) i am in love with the cartridge and the Lee action is a bloody good action better than any mauser I've fired (lets not debate the pros and cons of each its just my preferance) so I want a bubbafied 303 carbine thats dressed in desert cam with a red dot sight and flash supperessor why? Because **** just imagine the look of bewilderment on peoples faces!

Shawn Crea
03-31-2006, 08:24 PM
The Middle East market has a high demand for goats and since they survive when everything else dies goats still manage to get by.

I spent a little time in Kuwait and one of the local dishes was a "shwarma", sort of a pita bread wrapped around "meat" and greens, with some garlic-like paste. The chicken shwarma was fairly recognizable. The "meat" one was always suspect, usually claimed as beef, and I suspect was usually goat. It was usually very good, however.

kombi1976
04-01-2006, 04:43 AM
I spent a little time in Kuwait and one of the local dishes was a "shwarma", sort of a pita bread wrapped around "meat" and greens, with some garlic-like paste. The chicken shwarma was fairly recognizable. The "meat" one was always suspect, usually claimed as beef, and I suspect was usually goat. It was usually very good, however.
If you read back into bible times before the Roman and even Babylonian empires goats were popular in the Middle East.
They were a hardy animal that could provide meat and milk and skins.
Lamb may have a little more class, at least in the western world but goat as a sustainable animal is a better bet in dry, arid and hot climates.