Loaded some up to shoot in my Ruger Security Six, they are very long. I have a bit of a problem loading some of them into the cylinder. They do not want to seat that last 1/32".. Question: why?? Is it because of the throat in the cylinder, or am I not resizeing all the way to the base of my brass??....If it is the cylinder what can I do to fix it? 41 :confused:

They have a long driving band, about 1/8th", in front of the crimp groove, so they may be sticking in the front of your cylinder. You might have a build-up of lead in the throats, so I'd try giving the cylinder a real scrubbing. If that doesn't work, the best bet is to trim back your brass until they fit. Be sure to reduce your load and work up again.

They drop into my S&W M28 cylinder, but the noses are almost sticking out the front.

Bye
Jack

Give your cylinder a good cleaning and make sure the area around the chamber throats are clean. Drop a sized, empty case into your charge holes and see if it will seat all the way. This will point out any problems with your brass. As Jack said, your problem is probably associated with the bullet and not the brass. Rather than trim your cases to fit the bullet, why not switch bullets to something closer to 158 grains? Once trimmed, your cases can never be restored to full length and may require a reduction in the charge to compensate for reduced case volume.

That bullet has very little of it's length seated into the case (at least for it's wegiht) so I doubt it's a case of not expanding deep enough. I do like that bullet, not only for it's "normal" use, but it makes a great round for .38SW rounds used in British guns sighted for the heavier bullets.

Be sure your brass if all of the same length.

Are few gun problems whose solutions don't start with a good cleaning....get after taht cylinder with a brush and remove whatever has built up just ahead of the case mouth.


As only a few rounds do it, have you noticed if they tend to do it in the same chamber?

IF it tends to only happen in specific chambers, then it points to a chamber problem. IF it is the loaded rounds that will do it in any selected chamber, then it points to a brass problem.

Loaded some up to shoot in my Ruger Security Six, they are very long. I have a bit of a problem loading some of them into the cylinder. They do not want to seat that last 1/32".. Question: why?? Is it because of the throat in the cylinder, or am I not resizeing all the way to the base of my brass??....If it is the cylinder what can I do to fix it? 41 :confused:
2 possibilities:
Your cylinder throat may be smaller than the bullet. Security-Sixes are known to have small throat diameters. (They work fine with jacketed bullets.)Try to fit the bullet into the cylinder from the front. If it doesnt slide in easily, up to the case mouth, you need a smaller bullet or a throat reaming. Lead bullets should always be bought or sized not larger than the throat diameter. To get best accuracy and prevent leading, the throat should be just a little (.0005-.001") larger than bore diameter.
Cases a little too long will sometimes buckle if the crimp groove catches the end of the case when loading. There might not be any obvious bulging. I just managed to do this with some mixed brass, Win & S&W cases were .01" longer than Federal & Rem. Crimp was set to shorter cases and longer ones bulged. Bought a Lee factory crimp die to squish them down.
Jack

Will a good scrubbing with Hoppes #9 remove the carbon?? I will try that 1st, then the other suggestions...thanks

Use #9 and a .375 brush. I chuck the brush in the drill press and run it slow. You may have a real carbon buildup if you've been shooting a lot of .38 Specials.

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Jack

JM, sounds good will do. The gun is new to me, 1 owner before, he may have shot all 38's for as much as I know. But I'm a 357 mag guy all the way.

I might add, even with the tight fit the 185BT/14.8 gr. Lil'Gun /wsp cap load is a tackdriver @ 25 yards.

I might add, even with the tight fit the 185BT/14.8 gr. Lil'Gun /wsp cap load is a tackdriver @ 25 yards.
I have some of those left over from a .357 max project I was working with. If you want them I will make you a sweet deal on a partial box.
In my carbine they would shoot under 2" at 100.

Use #9 and a .375 brush. I chuck the brush in the drill press and run it slow. You may have a real carbon buildup if you've been shooting a lot of .38 Specials.

Bye
Jack
I'd suggest caution in power brushing a chamber.
I have found the looped stainless brushes sold under the name "Tornado" will do an excellent job of cleaning buildt-up powder/lube from chambers (by hand).
Four strokes with a .40cal, in each chamber, will leave it spotless, with no danger of scratching.
The looped construction causes the side of the wires, rather than the sharp ends, to remove the debris.
Jack Rosier

I have found the looped stainless brushes sold under the name "Tornado" will do an excellent job of cleaning buildt-up powder/lube from chambers (by hand).
The looped construction causes the side of the wires, rather than the sharp ends, to remove the debris.
Jack RosierI like and use the Tornado brush too. It is "springy" and will expand to effectively take lead out of a forcing cone or lead stuck to any rifling lands. The only drawback that I've found with the Tornado is sometime one of the coils will break, then it is time to discard it as a sharp end piece of the stainless steel coil could lead to scratches.

I have one of those for my 41 mag, so it is .410 ok to use that one??

I have one of those for my 41 mag, so it is .410 ok to use that one??I would not recommend using the .41 Mag sized Tornado in a .357 Mag. You are going to severely compress those stainless steel coils and one could easily snap exposing a sharp end tip to your barrel, cylinder chambers, etc. IMHO, for the price of a new Tornado brush, you would be far better off using one that is the correct size.

Found a new stainless 357 bore brush in my cleaning gear, chucked it up in my cordless drill. Lubed it all up with Hoppes and ran it thru all the cylinders @ low speed. Got out alot of crud, the reloads all fit now, thanks to all...41