Anyone used this copany to port a 45-70?
other recoil reducer measures ?
Thanks Bill

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Bill, welcome. Porting is needed if your shoulders are pretty lean and lacking muscles :D I had Magnaport do my SuperRedhwk .454 Casull some years back an it helped - did not shred the web of my hand anymore. Recoil was significantly better in regards to faster follow up shots.
Many of my rifles are ported as I was younger with "fresher" ears but now they are not hanging to good. Got rattled pretty good if I did not kill with my first shot-cringed quite so on the next.
Attempt many shots and learn to deal with the .45-70's recoil if you can before you have someone port your barrel. The .45-70 I have came with the porting and I "hate" the blasted porting anymores. Hope this helps, down the road you may think otherwise if you do. By the way do you reload? It is the only way to really get a handle on this "stomper".
Good shooting.

Magna-porting really does help. Only thing I recommend is get a good pair of electronic ear muffs or the ones that fit in your ears. This lets you hear ordinary sounds and cuts the high ones.

Other than this it's going to hurt your ears.

I had a custom rifle built for 9.3mmX62 cartridge. Sort of like a 35 Whelen but a tad larger diameter. Yet recoil was unpleasant. I sent the rifle to MAG-NA-PORT in Michigan through my local smith.

The rifle still kicked but muzzle lift was absent. I'm not sure it was worth the money. Anyway, I shot a medium sized bull elk with it at about 175 yards. It died same as my old .308 carbine. I observed zero difference in killing power. So I sold the custom rifle for a small profit and never looked back. So it goes.
TR

I have an earlier Marlin 1895 G in .45/70. I really like it, but I would probably like it a little more if it didn't have the ported barrel. You really need hearing protection for ANY shooting with a ported barrel.

If the recoil really bothers you, why not try a different recoil pad first? I think that would be a better choice. Other than that, I'd say to try some different loads, and just try to get used to it.

I have a Marlin 1895 Cow Boy in .45/70, and it has the hard rubber butt plate. I have an 1886 Winchester in .45/70, and it has the crescent shaped steel butt plate. I also have an 1895 Winchester in .405 Win, and it has the steel shotgun style butt plate. I don't mind shooting any of these with hot loads. It just takes some getting used to.

I have and I also know others that have magnaported their guns and have had good success with the muzzle flip and reduced recoil. A friend of mine has a Ruger #1 in 338 that he had ported and he said that it helped him out greatly on felt recoil. I have an 86 Win in 45/70 and I won't get it ported. I just don't care for porting on some guns. If I find that recoil is a problem I just reload a smaller bullet in my 45/70 and it works for me. Right now, I am using a 350 gr. cast bullet from Lazer-Cast and it works great for me. The more that I shoot, the easier it is to get used to the recoil. After awhile, I don't even notice it.

My GS is not ported and I do admit that with upper-end loads, it tends to remind me I just pulled the trigger. Marshall suggested I try a load of 48 grns of Rel 7 under the 405 cast. He was right as always. The felt recoil is much less and it is still exceeding 1800fps. I would not port my GS. I know 2 fellas with 450 Marlins with ports and those darn things are loud even with ear protection. They don't like the ports either. I know opinions differ with people, but I know very few that prefer ports on their lever guns.

Lot of the fellas that bought their rifles that way had them circumcised later. PS welcome to the forum.

Anyone used this copany to port a 45-70?
other recoil reducer measures ?
Thanks Bill


Reply:

I had a muzzle brake installed on a Marlin 1895 chambered in 45-70, which in realistic terms reduced recoil of about 25%.
Try contacting Brockman Gun Works, Wild West Guns, or a company such as Magnaport, located in Metropolitan Detroit,
Michigan. All of these corporations specialize in 45-70 reducers, but do not anticipate much over a 30% reduction.

The 45-70 is not a cartridge , while employed in a Marlin 1895 application, that produces pressure to produce those significant numbers of 50% and greater for brake reduction.
A recoil pad, almost always, will reduce "felt recoil" of about 50%. Do not confuse "felt recoil" vs. "actual', they are two different subjects.

Joe

I once had a Thompson Center TCR with a Mag-Na-Ported barrel in 30-06. This was the four slot version of mag-na-porting. It made the TCR about as easy to shoot as my M1 Garrand. Mag-na-porting works best with cartridges with higher velocities than 45/70.

I now shoot a regular 1895 in 45/70. I'll echo things said above. This thing tried to take my shoulder clean off with heavy loads. Slightly lighter loads and a good recoil pad make it fun to shoot.

Go with a good recoil pad. I have not met anyone who likes ported marlin barrels due to the very loud noise level. A couple of gunsmiths I talked with said that they remove more muzzle brakes than they install. Also, note that muzzle brakes are not the same as Mag-Na-Porting.

i have a 1971 5 screw n frame model 29 6 in barrel, bout 10 boxes of ammo throught it. i love the magnaport job done to it. shoots like a 357 mag now. i also have an interarms my dad built for a customer in 375 h&h mag, its also done by magnaport, the difference is like night and day. larry kelly used to own the company and had facilities on every continent at one time. been many years since i seen larry, but hes a great guy and does awesome work. the epdm machine he uses is totally burr less so no inside barrel work is needed.
my father was the gunsmith at neumanns gun shop in detroit and i remeber goint to larrys house when he did all the work in his barn. the only recoil reducer worth owning!!

Anyone used this copany to port a 45-70?
other recoil reducer measures ?
Thanks Bill

I used a mercury recoil reducing tube in the butt-stock - required careful drilling of a 7/8 hole approx 6 inches deep: that required some effort in hard walnut. I also threw away the "brick" Marlin adds and call a recoil pad. Replaced with a LimbSaver (I think the one designed for the Rem 870 fits perfectly, but check). With these two modifications, I can (and do) shoot my 45/70 off the bench for 100 rounds without any issues. Try it! You can always remove without ever knowing the difference (try that with porting).

Anyone used this copany to port a 45-70?
other recoil reducer measures ?
Thanks Bill

I have used the services of Mag-Na-Port several times. Back when my son was 14 I got him a 1985 .45-70. He had shot my .458 many times and handled the recoil of it just fine. The .458 had a really bad muzzle jump to it to the point that it would jump about a foot out of the front rest when shooting from bench. When shooting for group I do not hold the front end down and it jumping up out of the rest like that un-nerved me so I sent it to MNP and had it ported. After porting it no longer jumped out of the rest, but it still kicked just as hard. However, I digress.
Anyway, when my son started shooting even half-way hot loads out of the .45-70 he started flinching badly. Something he had never done with even hot loads in the .458. Something was wrong and it didn't take long to find out what: just one shot from bench. That one shot with the 1895 made it feel like you had been socked in the chops by a prize fighter. The recoil was not all that bad but the way the stock fit it caused the comb to slam into your face with each shot. It jumped up even worse than the .458 had. I sent the 1895 to MNP and had it done too. When it came back two weeks later the muzzle jump was gone almost entirely. The recoil was about the same but no more pop in the chops. My son started shooting the 1895 just fine, even with hot loads. Also, just as with my .458 we found absolutely no reduction in velocity with the exact same loads. Muzzle jump is tamed almost completely but do not expect much in straight back recoil reduction.

If you want straight back recoil reduction, go with a brake because you will not get it with MNPing. If you want muzzle jump reduction then fine, go with MNPing. The MNPing also does not increase the noise level to the shooter anywhere near as much as a brake does, more than no porting but nothing like braking does.