View Full Version : Ultra Varmint Fluted 22-250
uncle jerky
03-20-2006, 03:58 PM
What is the rifling twist on this model #SB2-F22? Thank you.
Gismo
03-20-2006, 05:18 PM
What brand?
Wrongtarget
03-20-2006, 05:18 PM
1:14". It's a good shooter, but you might need to get used to the stock, it's still growing on me!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/quickdtoo/Fluted22-250.jpg
uncle jerky
03-20-2006, 05:32 PM
1:14". It's a good shooter, but you might need to get used to the stock, it's still growing on me!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/quickdtoo/Fluted22-250.jpg
You read my mind. That's the H&R model that I'm going to buy tomorrow!! I hope it shoots as well as my Survivor .223.
What grain ammo would you suggest for the 22-250 with that twist? Target,varmint and deer for me! The bi pod looks great.What brand is it?
Gismo
03-20-2006, 05:43 PM
My main rifle that I have shot most of my life is ahte 22-250. I have mostly shot 55 grain spitzers with sub 1/4" accuracy most of the time. You can use 50's if you want more speed, but I prefer the 55's. My rifle with a zero at 100 yards is still dead on at 350 yards. This is the first 22-250 I have owned to be dead on that far down range. I am also using less than a max. load of H-380. I believe Max. in the old books anyway was 40 grains and I am using 38 grains.
Wrongtarget
03-20-2006, 06:02 PM
You read my mind. That's the H&R model that I'm going to buy tomorrow!! I hope it shoots as well as my Survivor .223.
What grain ammo would you suggest for the 22-250 with that twist? Target,varmint and deer for me! The bi pod looks great.What brand is it?
I've only shot the Rem green box 50gr JHP, with only a dozen rounds or so, it's shooting right at moa, I expect it to get better as the bore breaks in. I have a handload that I want to try using the 50gr Vmax and BL-C2, but haven't been able to get to the range this winter, hope to make it in a couple weeks. The bipod is an Outers clone of the Harris, $40 from Eabco.
uncle jerky
03-20-2006, 06:02 PM
Does that rifle have the EJECTOR or the EXTRACTOR?
flashhole
03-20-2006, 06:09 PM
Do you have to drop that large butt stock every time you chamber a round?
Years ago I shot lots of pheasants with an H&R single shot 12 ga. Had lots of doubles to my credit with that single shot, used to carry the shells between my fingers and got pretty adept at loading blind (eyes on the birds). It took many boxes of shells to loosen it up to the point I liked. Now I'm seriously considering one version of the Handi Rifle in 22 caliber (22 mag or 22 Hornet is the debate) but am a little put off about having to break the breech. Do you perceive it as a handicap or problem?
Wrongtarget
03-20-2006, 09:21 PM
Does that rifle have the EJECTOR or the EXTRACTOR?
All new NEF/H&R rifles have manual extractors, shotguns will eventually be converted, rimfires are up in the air, but I suspect they will be extractors too, eventually. It's still possible that they have a few barrels in some calibers with ejectors on them, but they are fast disappearing. Those that are in warehouses now are the last of the ejector equipped rifles. My .204 Ruger Handi that I bought in Oct 2004 has an extractor as well as does the .22-250 fluted Ultra.
Paul5388
03-20-2006, 09:56 PM
Flashhole,
I would recommend the Hornet.
If you reload, you can do more with it than a rimfire and do it cheaper. I also think you'll get more range and accuracy with a Hornet. Not only that, but you can get extra centerfire barrels for the NEF Hornet frame/receiver that the factory won't do on a rimfire frame/receiver.
uncle jerky
03-22-2006, 04:31 AM
Got my H&R 22-250 Ultra Varmint Fluted today, a Rock Steady bipod,sling and some Remington 55 gr power soft points. I'll mount a 3x9,get it bore sighted and I'll shoot it in then. If this gun shoots like by NEF Survivor, .223 I be a happy Uncle Jerky!The dealer told me that NEF/H&R,that has been making barrels for years,flutes them very well at the factory.
My main rifle that I have shot most of my life is ahte 22-250. I have mostly shot 55 grain spitzers with sub 1/4" accuracy most of the time. You can use 50's if you want more speed, but I prefer the 55's. My rifle with a zero at 100 yards is still dead on at 350 yards. This is the first 22-250 I have owned to be dead on that far down range. I am also using less than a max. load of H-380. I believe Max. in the old books anyway was 40 grains and I am using 38 grains.
Go back and read that again Gismo. Either you have a different definition of "zero" and "dead on" than most folks do, or gravity don't work in Ohio.
Gismo
03-22-2006, 11:14 AM
Go back and read that again Gismo. Either you have a different definition of "zero" and "dead on" than most folks do, or gravity don't work in Ohio.
Well, I know what I said and I was shocked to see the crow stop moving after I shot, but Thats what it was... 350 yards and hit right where I was holding. I normally have about an inch or so drop at that distance, but didn't even drop a half inch. If it was 1/4" it would be lucky. Like I said, this is the first 22-250 I have owned that shot that flat that far. I have a Weaver with a 44mm bell that sets just about 1/16th off the barrel. I can't explain it, but thats how it shoots. I have never had a 22-250 drop like the ballistics charts say anyway. Not even close. Like I said in one of my other threads, I go by what I see and not what the books tell me should happen.
I have one chart right here that says if I am zeroed at 150 yards it will drop 7 1/2 inches at 300 yards. I have never had a 22-250 drop more than about 1 1/2" at 300 yards with zero at 100 yards. I think they get their numbers from a computer and not from actual shooting. My other long shot was 450 yards on a groundhog and it dropped about 10 inches. The book put that one at close to 20 inches of drop if its 2 inches high at 100 yards. I can't explain it.
uncle jerky
03-24-2006, 11:19 PM
Took my new Ultra Varmint Fluted 22-250 to the 100 yd rifle range today. Tweaked the 3x9 as needed.Used WWB 45 gr & Remington 55 gr PSP ammo. 22 rounds shot total.Used the range's lead sled & my bipod.The gun shot 1-2" groups overall,but this was my 1st time using a bipod so my steadiness was not there yet.So far, I'm pleased with it.The recoil was actually greater than I expected as was the noise level,but that's OK. No problems with sticking cases, the extractor worked perfectly.Again, H&R/NEF has shown me they make very nice single shots rifles.
flashhole
03-25-2006, 10:39 AM
Flashhole,
I would recommend the Hornet.
If you reload, you can do more with it than a rimfire and do it cheaper. I also think you'll get more range and accuracy with a Hornet. Not only that, but you can get extra centerfire barrels for the NEF Hornet frame/receiver that the factory won't do on a rimfire frame/receiver.
I tend to agree but the 22 Mag is appealing too. What's the difference between H&R and NEF? Is one a better quality gun than the other? Are the barrels made by the same manufacturer? Is there no end to my questions?
Gismo
03-25-2006, 01:08 PM
I tend to agree but the 22 Mag is appealing too. What's the difference between H&R and NEF? Is one a better quality gun than the other? Are the barrels made by the same manufacturer? Is there no end to my questions?
H&R and NEF are one in the same. Heres the link.
http://www.hr1871.com/
Wrongtarget
03-25-2006, 01:30 PM
The only difference between H&R and NEF is the models offered, the Ultras have a bit nicer finish on the metal work and nicer stocks. They're both owned by Marlin and use Green Mountain barrels on most, but not all.
kiddekop
04-20-2006, 09:08 AM
Here's a source of information http://www.varmintal.com/arelo.htm ./
Chopper Charlie
06-07-2007, 07:51 AM
1:14". It's a good shooter, but you might need to get used to the stock, it's still growing on me!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v386/quickdtoo/Fluted22-250.jpg
I'm writing from Ontario, Canada. I have the same model 22-250 and really like your bipod and the price. Can you tell me what model it is because I went to Eabco but they list different models with different features. I don't want to order the wrong one and then have to modify my gun. From Canada we cannot return items to the U.S. without going through all the government crap and a lot of additional costs.
Thanks and Happy Shooting
E-mail me if you like at fredgsmith_4@sympatico.ca
Wrongtarget
06-07-2007, 10:36 AM
I'm pretty sure that's a Harris HBL, I have a Shooters Ridge that is a Harris clone, built just a touch lighter, but costs half as much. Walmart carries it. Cabelas ships to Canada.
Tim
http://www.harrisbipods.com/HBL.html
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Chopper Charlie
06-08-2007, 08:13 PM
All new NEF/H&R rifles have manual extractors, shotguns will eventually be converted, rimfires are up in the air, but I suspect they will be extractors too, eventually. It's still possible that they have a few barrels in some calibers with ejectors on them, but they are fast disappearing. Those that are in warehouses now are the last of the ejector equipped rifles. My .204 Ruger Handi that I bought in Oct 2004 has an extractor as well as does the .22-250 fluted Ultra.
Just reading the forum and noted that you also have a .204 ruger H&R/NEF. Are these decent guns and how is the accuracy?
The primary reason I bought the H&R 22-250 was because it is a cheaply priced gun and for me that is now becoming important. You know about my back and legs and I do fall and also lose my balance a lot, which means my good guns are getting banged up more than I like!
I prefer to mess up a cheap gun and just replace them more often. I hope you tell me what I want to hear.
Cheers
Fred
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