View Full Version : 60 gr. .22 lr's?
Kansas
04-12-2006, 09:04 PM
Occasionally, I see .22 lr's with 60 grain bullets on the internet for sale. I have never seen any in real life. I was wondering if anyone has used any and what your experience has been with them? Thanks.
faucettb
04-12-2006, 09:30 PM
I bought a box just to see how they would shoot when I was at the last gunshow. Also got a box of the primer powered loads.
The 60 grainers go ok out of the rifle and were as accurate as the bulk ammo I buy at Wally world.
I didn't shoot the primer powered out of my 25 inch bbl CZ as I was afraid they might stick in the barrel so just shot them out of my old Rossi revolver. Again accuracy was ok at short ranges.
both of these cartridges are sub-sonic so noise is down. For the price I won't buy more. They were three bucks a box. I'll stick to bulk ammo from Wally world.
Hope that helps you some.
ribbonstone
04-13-2006, 03:37 AM
I bought a box just to see how they would shoot when I was at the last gunshow. Also got a box of the primer powered loads.
The 60 grainers go ok out of the rifle and were as accurate as the bulk ammo I buy at Wally world.
I didn't shoot the primer powered out of my 25 inch bbl CZ as I was afraid they might stick in the barrel so just shot them out of my old Rossi revolver. Again accuracy was ok at short ranges.
both of these cartridges are sub-sonic so noise is down. For the price I won't buy more. They were three bucks a box. I'll stick to bulk ammo from Wally world.
Hope that helps you some.
Have treid the 60gr. load in perhaps a dozen rifles by now. I don't know why some rifles will shoot them well and others won't group them in a wash tub; all rifles have had a 1:16 twsit which is standard for the .22LR, and I expected NONE of them to shoot the 60gr. load well but some of the rifles don't know they aren't spose to. Would try a single box before ordering a carton of them.
Those 60gr. loads can be loud in semi-autos. Depends on the rifle, but on at least some, the heavy weight bullet and short length case tend to open the action a bit early with a nice uff of gas and considerable noise from the ejection port. Not really all that loud, but it's right next to your head so it seems so.
The Colibri round (the one with no powder and a very lite bullet) never have grouped well for me at any range,shoot drasticaly low, but are fun for a very quiet day of knocking a tin can around.
Kansas
04-13-2006, 09:39 AM
Thanks for your replies guys. Think they are any better than the standard 40 grain bullet for varmint hunting? Thanks
ribbonstone
04-13-2006, 02:53 PM
Thanks for your replies guys. Think they are any better than the standard 40 grain bullet for varmint hunting? Thanks
No.
Have shot a few big critters (possums. racoon) and occasionaly get an exit that looks like the bullet may have tumbled...othersise it's a puckered exit about bullet diameter. Shooting critters in the 10pound + range might be the round's main worth, assuming you get a rifle taht will shoot them worth a hoot.
Cheezywan
04-13-2006, 03:17 PM
I have not shot any of them. I do like the idea though! It would allow for maximum "horse power" from a .22 LR without going super sonic. Rifle twist rate may factor in here?
I would try a box to see what happens.
Cheezywan
ribbonstone
04-13-2006, 03:21 PM
I have not shot any of them. I do like the idea though! It would allow for maximum "horse power" from a .22 LR without going super sonic. Rifle twist rate may factor in here?
I would try a box to see what happens.
Cheezywan
Mostly i shoot them in .22 revolers. Made a little flat pointing tool that turns them into 42gr. almost full wad cutters. Works pretty well from shorter barreled revolvers.
Are resonably quiet from a locked breech rifle (already mentioned they tend to be noisy from semi-autos) and if the rifle decides to shoot them well, they don't kill any worse thn 40gr. RN bullets. Do carry more energy downrage.
Cheezywan
04-13-2006, 03:46 PM
Mostly i shoot them in .22 revolers. Made a little flat pointing tool that turns them into 42gr. almost full wad cutters. Works pretty well from shorter barreled revolvers.
Are resonably quiet from a locked breech rifle (already mentioned they tend to be noisy from semi-autos) and if the rifle decides to shoot them well, they don't kill any worse thn 40gr. RN bullets. Do carry more energy downrage.
Yea! I like that idea.
It is a shame that we can't reload and cast bullets for the rimfires. Your idea may be as close as we can get.
I have heard/read of folks that have pulled bullets, messed with powders, and replaced bullets. Some with good results!
It is to much work for me on a volume basis. I would need to get fired from my work and get everything else done before I would go there.
Cheezywan
Tumbleweeds
04-13-2006, 06:46 PM
They didn't keyhole in my .22s, they pinwheeled.
Dan K
04-13-2006, 09:12 PM
Both cartridges are made for handgun use. But with different applications. The Super Calibri weigh 20Grs. they are made for pest control and they are about the same power as a good pellet gun.
The .22SSS rounds are for close range penetration using a short barreled pistol.
Dan
Maser
04-14-2006, 05:45 AM
Awww the ever famous Aguila SSS 60 grainers. I love that ammo. You cannot appreciate them to their fullest unless you have shot them from a suppressed barrel. I have a class 3 dealer in my familiy and when I visit him I always bring my 10/22 because he always has cool class 3 things to put on it. Anyways, while shooting full auto from the silenced barrel I was getting annoyed by the sonic crack the bullets were making. I then load up the 50 round mag with the 60 grainers and WOW!! Full auto with no sound other than the cycling action.
jb12string
04-14-2006, 06:05 PM
Awww the ever famous Aguila SSS 60 grainers. I love that ammo. You cannot appreciate them to their fullest unless you have shot them from a suppressed barrel. I have a class 3 dealer in my familiy and when I visit him I always bring my 10/22 because he always has cool class 3 things to put on it. Anyways, while shooting full auto from the silenced barrel I was getting annoyed by the sonic crack the bullets were making. I then load up the 50 round mag with the 60 grainers and WOW!! Full auto with no sound other than the cycling action.
ah the simple joys of youth
Kansas
04-14-2006, 08:04 PM
I was wondering about using them in dad's 39A Mountie (20" barrel I think). Anyone know if they will cycle throuhg the action ok? Also are they seated deeper than the 40 grainers, hence, less powder making them more appropriate to pistols rather than rifles? I was thinking about using them on raccoons and larger varmints. I have a box of Remmington 36 gr. hollowpoints that do not seem to work so well on them for some reason. In fact the last varmint I killed with them was a mother possum. First shot was a headshot that should have been a 1 shot kill, but was not..lack of penetration depth??? However, I had a calf about weeks old that got the snot kicked out of him or got ran over and could not walk and quit nursing the bottle and I put him down with a 1 shot kill to the head ok like my first shot to the possum was. Any explanation???
ribbonstone
04-14-2006, 08:11 PM
I was wondering about using them in dad's 39A Mountie (20" barrel I think). Anyone know if they will cycle throuhg the action ok? Also are they seated deeper than the 40 grainers, hence, less powder making them more appropriate to pistols rather than rifles? I was thinking about using them on raccoons and larger varmints. I have a box of Remmington 36 gr. hollowpoints that do not seem to work so well on them for some reason. In fact the last varmint I killed with them was a mother possum. First shot was a headshot that should have been a 1 shot kill, but was not..lack of penetration depth??? However, I had a calf about weeks old that got the snot kicked out of him or got ran over and could not walk and quit nursing the bottle and I put him down with a 1 shot kill to the head ok like my first shot to the possum was. Any explanation???
It's the same length and profile as most 40gr. loads...what they've done is put a long-long bullet in a .22short case, so I guess (as calibers are usually named for the CASE) it's a .22short variation.
Odd things happen when bulelts strike skulls...not too uncommon for them to glance off bone and run around the skull under the skin (have had attempted susicides come into the ER with the same problem). Flat nosed or HP bullets have a bit more tendency to "dig in" rather than glace off.
Gismo
04-14-2006, 08:12 PM
CCI Mini Mag 36 grain hollow points will do the job. They have killed a few coyotes for me and my cousin. CCI's seem to have more punch than any other .22lr ammo that I have tried anyway. Remingtons are a little on the weak side. Also anything much bigger than a squirrel should be a head shot anyway. I know a .22 can kill a deer if shot in the head at less that 50 yards.
Terrierman
04-21-2006, 02:22 PM
The SSS rounds have a short case. Shooting many of them in a standard chamber would start to build a carbon ring and eventually even erode a ring. Neither would be considered an asset to smooth chambering or more importantly, extraction. I tried them though. They keyholed terribly out of my 77/22, have not tried them out of Remington 512. Did get the Remington sub sonic to group reasonably well in the 77/22 and that round is in the magazine for night time armadillo control in the back yard.
Tried the SSS on raccoons out of pistols. Did not like the performance at all. They plow a .22 diameter hole through the coon and just keep on going without having much effect. I strongly prefer Stinger, Velocitor or Super X hollow point for coons. Hit one in the right spot with any of those rounds and the game has ended.
Possums are hard to kill. Itty bitty brain and they are tenacious to life. I've seen one popped in the head, smoke coming out of both ears and still the possum was breathing...I've seen one that was shot out of the tree, mauled by hounds, head shot again, skinned out and STILL BREATHING. No joke, possums are tough.
Ekoch424
04-22-2006, 07:15 AM
Couldn't you make a jig to modify the bullets so they have a larger metplat or even attempt hollowpointing them so they don't just penetrate and keep moving?
ribbonstone
04-22-2006, 07:37 AM
Couldn't you make a jig to modify the bullets so they have a larger metplat or even attempt hollowpointing them so they don't just penetrate and keep moving?
Mentioned that about 10 post back or so. Does seem to help stability, but doesn't do a whole bunch for accuacy. WIth a tight fitting cut off holder (die) will work better...believe a loose fit not only flat tips them, but loosens the crimp, which hurts accuracy.
So if you are going to make a flat nosed type tool, best make it a really good one...and don't plan on shooting the flatnosed bullets through most repeaters.
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