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johnny-r-h
04-23-2006, 09:03 PM
I was watching tred barta on oln today and I saw some of what I thought was unethical. Tred Barta was doe hunting with a long bow and he shot one from a distance. The shot was too far back and it was a gutshot. He looked around and never found it. In the end he was more upset that he lost his animal and that he spent his precious hunting time looking for a wounded deer. It didn't seem like he felt any remorse. Did anyone else see this episode. Comments?

Phil_in_a_box
04-24-2006, 01:48 AM
I was watching tred barta on oln today and I saw some of what I thought was unethical. Tred Barta was doe hunting with a long bow and he shot one from a distance. The shot was too far back and it was a gutshot. He looked around and never found it. In the end he was more upset that he lost his animal and that he spent his precious hunting time looking for a wounded deer. It didn't seem like he felt any remorse. Did anyone else see this episode. Comments?

I had mixed feelings the only time I watched a Tred Barta episode too. He was bowhunting and took an unusually long shot for himself, hit the deer in the neck and never found it.

I mean there has to be some balance in hunting between the level of challenge and the humanity towards the animals. I think Tred here has slipped too far toward the challenge side of the scale, and I feel he only does it for his own pride or amusement, to prove to himself and everyone else that he's a badass. Except that he wounds animals and doesn't find them. >_<

mloschy
04-24-2006, 06:02 AM
the question is, has he ever lost that trophy while on camera? I would guess hes "loosing" the animals to show that he is also an "average" guy and doesn't alway score big... I would imagin there is so much editing done on those shows that you can't get the real feel for the situation or what actually happened... Don't think I don't agree with you guys, I'm right on board, I just suspect that what you see on film isnt' the whole or even part of the story..

UnCruel
04-24-2006, 06:15 AM
Sounds like you might want to write a letter to OLN. I doubt you can stop this guy from taking the excessively long shots, but you may be able to persuade OLN from showing this guy as an example to viewers who might then do the same thing. And if OLN stops paying him to take those shots, maybe he will stop.

I will say, though, that if getting within bowshot range of a deer is challenging, doing so with a cameraman following you is probably twice as challenging.

Kart29
04-24-2006, 08:08 AM
Well, to me, that's alot more ethical than most of the hunting shows I see on TV. At least Tred Barta wasn't afraid to show the mistake that he made. Everybody takes a bad shot on occassion.

What I hate to see is the guys who kill the "shooter bucks" from a blind they didn't build over a food plot they didn't plant inside a fence they didn't erect. Then they go back to the lodge and have a great meal they didn't cook.

Irv S
04-24-2006, 11:36 AM
Sounds like you might want to write a letter to OLN. I doubt you can stop this guy from taking the excessively long shots, but you may be able to persuade OLN from showing this guy as an example to viewers who might then do the same thing. And if OLN stops paying him to take those shots, maybe he will stop.

It might be more effective to write to the sponsers of the show. OLN may not care if they continue to make money from the sponsers, while the sponser will be concerned about having negative images associated with their products.

johnny-r-h
04-24-2006, 04:41 PM
"from a blind they didn't build over a food plot they didn't plant inside a fence they didn't erect. Then they go back to the lodge and have a great meal they didn't cook." Kart29


I can't agree more with what you are saying.

Gismo
04-24-2006, 04:51 PM
Everyone is Human. We all miss or make a bad shot in our lives. He is just being totally honest. Can't fault him for that. Sure the shot he took was not a good one, but he didn't hide it. Like the others said, we never see the bad ones on the other shows. I would let it go and thank him for showing that he is man enough to admit he made a bad shot.

Phil_in_a_box
04-24-2006, 04:51 PM
Well, to me, that's alot more ethical than most of the hunting shows I see on TV. At least Tred Barta wasn't afraid to show the mistake that he made. Everybody takes a bad shot on occassion.

What I hate to see is the guys who kill the "shooter bucks" from a blind they didn't build over a food plot they didn't plant inside a fence they didn't erect. Then they go back to the lodge and have a great meal they didn't cook.

Yeah, this is why my feelings about Barta were mixed. At least he's trying to make it more of a challenge.

Of course, even Tred is benefitting from other people's work when he's being shown around a fancy hunting ranch by a professional guide so he can find the prime animal he wants.

I dunno. There's definitely something to be said for making things challenging and trying to be more purist, but there's also something to be said for clean kills. Not that I really know anything about either; haven't been able to go out and hunt yet. But I know when I do I won't be able to afford going to some hunting ranch, so in any case it ought to be quite a challenge for me. :p

alyeska338
04-24-2006, 05:45 PM
The show of Barta's where he was hunting caribou was sickening. He took 5 or 6 shots that were way out of range, in the brush on running animals. He was shooting just to see if he could hit something.

'Dangerous Game' with Chris McNeil (I think that is who it is) is very good as is the Eastman show. The rest are pretty sorry in my opinion. If I watch one more "hunter" walk behind a guide or PH with his hands in pockets, looking at the ground and his rifle slung... Or hunting animals over waterholes from blinds in Africa during the dry season (the animals have no choice except to visit the waterholes... or die). Watching a "hunter" shoot a deer from a stand then turn to the camera and start talking about the scope or arrow rest they are using is just terrible. Half of them don't mention the deer except how long the g-2 tines are or what the animal will score.

Barta is bad news, he should stick to boats and fishing.

IDShooter
04-24-2006, 07:00 PM
I understand what you folks who are saying "at least he's being honest" mean, but I disagree.

I know most people will make a bad hit if they hunt long enough (even if they do everything right), and it seems that some people think Barta is a good guy for showing that he isn't perfect. However, every poor shot I've heard about him taking has been at a range that was too long or was questionable for some reason. I believe a man who is making money by filming his hunts has a moral obligation to take absolutely NO shot that is not perfect! I think he has an obligation to the game, and he certainly has an obligation to all the hunters to whom he gives a black eye with such antics.

Can people miss or make a bad hit, even with a "perfect" set-up? Certainly! But in Barta's case, we're not talking about hitting an unseen twig or an animal jumping the string. It's generally Barta hot-dogging.

I agree with Alyeska - Barta is bad news.

ntjaxn
04-26-2006, 09:14 AM
ID,

I agree with ya 100%. Let him mis a 25yd shoot, or have an unseen twig result in a poor hit at 20 yds and I'll fogive him..

However, his actions described in this post are un-excussable!

Nate

fat chance
04-26-2006, 04:36 PM
It was not just one bad shot either. It was shot after shot at distances where he was just flinging arrows. Then when he did get lucky and hit something it was a bad hit. But it was definately his attitude that was worst. Complaining about waisting his time with zero concern about wounding an animal. One shot one kill that would be a real challenge for him.