I have seen more of this garbage on the market. This is a pic of an Austrian M95. Very nice piece. Some person decided to stamp it w/ a dirty bird. This is not real, it is a forgery. Note the 2 tone bluing, the stock was also double stamped w/ a dirty bird ( one over the other), that would never happen! Please don't fall into this trap! This rifle sold for $580.00. I just sold a better example of one for $200.00 + ammo. Mine was all original! (no dirty bird!!) If you are unsure about a rifle, Please ask! The Nazi's never stamped M95's. JP

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At the last gun show I attended, I saw some counterfeit 1903-A4 Springfields for $1,500.00 each. That was next to the table with cyq code P-38s for $2,500.00. All the best...
Gil

At the last gun show I attended, I saw some counterfeit 1903-A4 Springfields for $1,500.00 each. That was next to the table with cyq code P-38s for $2,500.00. All the best...
Gil

PT Barnum was right.

It is a crime in my mind. The purpose was to decieve for monatary gain. Possesion of/ manufacture of such a stamp asks the questions "why?" What would be a legal reason?
I am not saying that stamps should be outlawed. I am saying that if I saw one at a shop or somewhere, I would personally make a boycott effort.
Someone change my mind!
Cheezywan

Mitchell's Mausers makes the claim every day! Total rebuilds, new stocks, few arguments. Just beware, and use caution! JP

More and more of this crap every day, not only rifles but everything military. Just saw a blog on some doughboy helmets someone purchased thinking they were as advertised "new un-issued found in a warehouse". He dropped something like $500 a piece for them, eight or ten, and as soon as he opened the package he found they were assembled with pop rivets, not the OEM peened rivets and if that was not enough give away, they had cotton/nylon blend straps! As-is sale so he's probably screwed on getting his money back.

Sniper rifles seem to be the big counterfiet items for the last couple years. One place was selling 91/30 snipers advertised as "Tula PU snipers 1936-1939 recovered from storage in Minsk". Problem is, the rifles were stamped with the Iveshevsky armory rebuild ID and not only was the scope and mount not exactly to spec, but when removed stamped on the bottom of the mount was "made in china" and the same appeared on the scope tube hidded by the mount. Price tag on these was around $900 yet the actual value of them is $160 at best because the workmanship is just downright nasty!

Buyer beware!!!! Know what you're getting! If you're unsure, pay with a credit card and damand the seller offers at least a 3 day inspection period and full refund if you're not satisfied. Best bet is to pay with American Express because they have the best customer service when it comes to fraudulent sales.

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This past Saturday,I saw a Trapdoor Springfield wth a sign designsting it as a 1877 model carbine.It was a carbine,but had an 1884 breech block an barrelband and an 1884 Buffington sight He wanted 2750 for it.
Frank

Some of this is stupidity, some greedy misrepresentation, but faking a stamp is demonstratable fraud...no way that's stupidity or simple over-pricing. Hard to get law enfrocment intterested in that kind of fraud as most (including DA's) don't have the back ground in guns...but I'd still report it.

Some of this is stupidity, some greedy misrepresentation, but faking a stamp is demonstratable fraud...no way that's stupidity or simple over-pricing. Hard to get law enfrocment intterested in that kind of fraud as most (including DA's) don't have the back ground in guns...but I'd still report it.
There is one small loophole, if any where in the add, tag, or verbal speech the term "as is" is used, that safe guards the seller. The buyer has no recourse

It never hurts to go to the seller and let them know that you know and are planning on going to the show organizer and the authorities. Don't start an arguement, but politely let them know that what they have is a fraud.

If they were defrauded, then Im sure that they would appreciate the assistance of the authorities... Yeah Sure.
If they don't want any assistance, well then, maybe the next poor slob who comes along might need some assistance. No reason to let another shooter get hosed by liars and thieves.

I seen the german stamps for sale at numrich gun parts that raised my attention to look out for fakes. You guys are right education is the key and ask before you buy. It makes me wonder why we haven't seen some rare german stamped mosins yet? They should be worth at least $1,000 each right?
PT Barmun was right and thats scary too.

I once read a post about the SVT-40 Tokarev Carbines. One guy posted his gunsmith buddy in canada was taking regular svt-40's and cutting them down and making carbines out of them and he was so good at it you couldn't tell the difference between the real one or the fake.

I get a bad gut feeling when i hear "oh look what we just found in a warehouse in europe" thats scary too and i'm surprised the finish is hard enough to touch too. I figure they were refurbishing them on the boat on the way over here. These surplups are a big business and good money is made off of them too. Then i look at a refurbished disc sanded refurbished gun and most will say don't refinish your surplup sure if you can find an orginal one. I only refinish the bad bubba jobs trying to get them back to orginal condition. Its too bad that bubba always seems to get the best looking ones first ever notice that?

BTW; The latest thing that i have seen is the ground off and restamped numbers on the swede mausers. It seems a gun shop here has a rash of them and again these are the only ones i have ever seen like this. Busy little bee's.