Hey all,

Looking at buying some wolf ammo, the cheaper stuff in the green cases, for my .223. Anyone have any advice with this stuff? Its as cheap as 12.9 cents a round, which is about what i could load for it, so I was looking at buying some, the only thing is, I have to buy 500 rounds. Im not looking for amazing here, just be able to hit squirrels, at some distance. Wanted to know from some people that had experience with the stuff before I spend 80 bucks and ended up with 500 rounds.

Hey all,

Looking at buying some wolf ammo, the cheaper stuff in the green cases, for my .223. Anyone have any advice with this stuff? Its as cheap as 12.9 cents a round, which is about what i could load for it, so I was looking at buying some, the only thing is, I have to buy 500 rounds. Im not looking for amazing here, just be able to hit squirrels, at some distance. Wanted to know from some people that had experience with the stuff before I spend 80 bucks and ended up with 500 rounds.

It depends on what you use the Wolf ammo in, a bolt action or a semi-auto. The local gun club holds CMP rifle matches every month and a few shooters were using Wolf ammo in their AR-15s and Bushmasters. The results were not favorable and now none of the shooters use it. Have no ideal how the ammo would be in a bolt action. All the best...
Gil

Wolf is SO under powered....

American Eagle is good.

Of course M193 is still my favorite.
Can't hardly find it anymore though.

Edit to add:
Yeah, you are talking about carbines right??
I assumed you were.

Some like it and say it shoots really well, and it may, but I don't like it for the one reason that they use very dirty powder. Their .22 ammo will jam up a semi-auto in just a few shots. Same with 9mm ammo. Not too sure about the .223. Never hurts to try. Might be ok.

- I have had more than the allowable amount of issues and problems with Wolf-Ammo to spend my personal-funds on it for any reason. I am fortunate to be exposed to a considerable amount of various ammunition-brands and types through my normal-routine...and I can usually get-by with one of the BiG-3...Eagle/UMC/USA...all which are quite affordable when purchased in quantity, run alot more cleaner and consistent in the weapons of choice than Wolf's-Fodder. Quite-often we must outsource ammunition-purchases because certain-students....or Gov't/PVT-Teams, are coming in from various locations and ask-us to coordinate the ammo-requisition. So...I experince and see QUITE-A-BIT of ammunition burned-up annually, and - I have a very-negative-impression and view towards WOLF-Ammunition.

- But...It-is-what-it-is...and if it's all you can get...well - you gotta shoot-n-train.

Sorry, forgot to post that this is for a savage 110, sorry for any confusion about that...still doesn't sound to good to spend that much money on for my bolt though :(

I have noticed recently in some of my catalogs that Wolf has come out with a new line of centerfire ammo called Wolf Gold. It is supposed to be brass cased and boxer primed so it should be reloadable. Has anyone had any experience with this line of Wolf ammo? I was thinking of trying it in my Swede and see if it shot any better than the PMC stuff that I tried. It is also cheaper than the PMC stuff so ... (Squint sgruggs his shoulders and then winces because it reminds him of the surgery he had last month)

Squint

I have used Wolf Ammo in 7.62 x 39 in semi auto SKS. I never had any problems with it. But it is VERY dirty ammo and not super accurate. Which in my case it doesn't need to be for a semi auto. It is about 4-5 inch groups at 100yds.
But I think there are as many people against Wolf as they are that likes it. I do know that American Eagle is much better but also much more expensive.

All Wolf ammo is very dirty and should be avoided in auto's. They will shoot, but you will have to clean about every 10 rounds. Not fun.

All Wolf ammo is very dirty and should be avoided in auto's. They will shoot, but you will have to clean about every 10 rounds. Not fun.

Not my experience at all. Typical Sunday afternoon shoot runs hundreds of rounds of Wolf ammo thru the SKS and dozens of rounds thru the 45 acp and a 223 semi auto w/ no problems at all.

I believe this is military spec ammo used by many nation's armies.

Will agree that the ammo makes a mess, but for the price, I put up with it. WOuld do the same if Ameircan ammo sold as cheap.

Not my experience at all. Typical Sunday afternoon shoot runs hundreds of rounds of Wolf ammo thru the SKS and dozens of rounds thru the 45 acp and a 223 semi auto w/ no problems at all.

I believe this is military spec ammo used by many nation's armies.

Will agree that the ammo makes a mess, but for the price, I put up with it. WOuld do the same if Ameircan ammo sold as cheap.


Pretty much built to the old Chi-Com military standard...they build dirt-tolerant guns, so the ammo tends to work like a champ in guns of that type. Works pretty well in most .45acps as well....but feed their .223 into a tight chambered/ dirt intolerant US made rifle, and you'll have some jams after just a few rounds.

If you gun eats it, then use it. Have burned up a couple of cases of 9mm in typical service (US and others) handguns with no problems....have burned more thn a case of 7.62X39 in SKS's and AK-clones and find it's about the same as the old Commie issue ammo.

(it's at least better than Egyptian or other midEastern ammo tried ammo...and about as good as the old Chinese ammo from before the import ban.)

I'd not by a case of it until after testing a few boxes....but if it does what you want in the test run, then get a case or two to have on hand.


Certainly isn't match ammo.

Not my experience at all. Typical Sunday afternoon shoot runs hundreds of rounds of Wolf ammo thru the SKS and dozens of rounds thru the 45 acp and a 223 semi auto w/ no problems at all.

I believe this is military spec ammo used by many nation's armies.

Will agree that the ammo makes a mess, but for the price, I put up with it. WOuld do the same if Ameircan ammo sold as cheap.


I had a guy sell me a T/C Classic real cheap because it didn't work. I took it home cleaned it and it was fine. When cleaning it, seeming like cleaning a chimney. The stuff inside the action had to be chipped off with a small screwdriver it was caked on so hard. It worked just fine after cleaning it and I still have it. I asked him one day what ammo he was using and he said he had fired two boxes of Wolf ammo through it, then it "broke".

I also had been at the indoor range shooting my Kimber, and had fired about 200 rounds through it without a hitch. The guy next to me asked me to try some of this new, less expensive ammo, so I did. Jammed on the second round. Unjammed it, jammed again two rounds later. It was also Wolf ammo. Went back to my Winchester stuff and fired another 50 rounds without a hitch. Just those two times told me I would never buy Wolf ammo no matter how well it shot. These are just my experiences with this stuff. It is just too dirty for me.

While working at the gunrange, have seen many cartridges of Wolf brand that had no primers or primers installed backwards.

The steel cases are a bit rough on the chambers of nicely made rifles. Chi-com and Eastern Bloc made SKS' and AK-47's seem to do alright, as ribbonstone says - they're also chrome lined chambers and bores.

One of the biggest hangups is the excessive sealant of the bullets and primers. This stuff builds up in the chamber neck and forms a hard ring of debris that makes an extremely tight fit in commercial chambers, causing excessive high chamber pressures. Tough stuff to try removing, also.

Pretty much built to the old Chi-Com military standard...they build dirt-tolerant guns, so the ammo tends to work like a champ in guns of that type. Works pretty well in most .45acps as well....but feed their .223 into a tight chambered/ dirt intolerant US made rifle, and you'll have some jams after just a few rounds.

If you gun eats it, then use it. Have burned up a couple of cases of 9mm in typical service (US and others) handguns with no problems....have burned more thn a case of 7.62X39 in SKS's and AK-clones and find it's about the same as the old Commie issue ammo.

(it's at least better than Egyptian or other midEastern ammo tried ammo...and about as good as the old Chinese ammo from before the import ban.)

I'd not by a case of it until after testing a few boxes....but if it does what you want in the test run, then get a case or two to have on hand.


Certainly isn't match ammo.

I've used it for years in the SKS without problems. Just tried it for the first time in my mini 14 and ran over 100 rounds thru it w/ no problems. WIsh I had an AR...

I deep clean my guns after every shoot...whether 5 rounds or 500 rounds, so the extra gunk from the WOlf ammo is a minor annoyance.

Have you noticed that even Wolf isn't "cheap" anymore. it's gone up about 50% this year.

I've used Wolf .223 to a limited extent in my Olympic Arms Plinker AR with no problems, but it is pretty dirty stuff. Cleaner, MUCH more accurate, and only a shade more expensive has been the Silver Bear 62 gr. softpoint load.

I've read that the Wolf Gold stuff is actually manufactured in Germany, and is supposed to be of significantly better quality and consistency, but I haven't tried any yet.

In the "Cheaper than Dirt catalog" it says Wolf Gold is made in Yugoslavia. Which is hard to believe since that country does not exist anymore.
The only difference I can find is that the Gold stuff does not have any lacquer coating on it..

The Wolf 22 Match Target and Match Extra ammo is made by SK Jagd in Germany who also makes Lapua ammo. I believe the Match Extra is exactly the same as SK Standard Plus, just a different box. This is fantastic ammunition for the money. It is extremely popular with small bore silhouette shooters and BR shooters as a practice load and some even use it in competition. I shoot an entire 5000 round case through my Lilja barrelled Sako Finnfire without cleaning (I never clean the bore, just toothbrush loose particles out of the action every once in a great while) I don't know about it's performance in semi-auto's because I never tried it, but in a bolt gun it's not dirty at all. It's just like any other wax coated match 22 ammo.

I've had some experience with only three types of Wolf ammo. 7.62X54R was underpowered compared to old, no-brand surplus ammo. Was slightly cleaner and hopefully non-corrosive compared to the old surplus. But the surplus was more accurate in my Mosin-Nagant.
I've been using Wolf Match target .22LR in both a Clark Custom 10/22 (semi-auto) as well as a Marlin and a Winchester Lever actions. In those rifles it was almost as accurate as RWS Match ammo at four times the cost. Can't say for sure, but it didn't strike me as particularly dirtier than any other. The semi-auto fired 200-300 rounds at a sitting. i've also used it on a Ruger Mk. II, again with no problems.

I recently got a good deal for 2000 rounds of Wolf .45ACP. Tried a box of 50 first and was happy enough to buy the 2000. This is used on a Kimber Gold Match Stainless, so this is not a "loose" gun. Function has been good so far and the accuracy seems better than anything else I've ever shot through it. Maybe practice is making me better. It DOES look a bit dirtier than I remember from other brands, and it stinks. But I've had no problems with the functioning of the gun due to this. The most shot has been 200 rounds in a session before cleaning.
I've never tried their .223. But I can tell you that I once bought a case of Winchester USA .223 which I returned, as out of the first 20 rounds, five primers fell out into the trigger mechanism of my AR-15. Haven't used Winchester-USA .223 since.

The Wolf .223 is under powered and very dirty. I have had much better luck w/ Barneul Russian ammo. I would not suggest Either one in a bolt action rifle. You will have extraction issues in time w/ steel case ammo. Wolf Gold is Made by S&B. I have had real nice results w/ Igman ammo, not Hot Shot, but standard Igman soft points. The cases are reloadable also. JP

From what I can tell it seems the Russian ammo works well in Russian guns. I have shot a lot of Wolf 7.62x39 with no problems. The newer poly coated ammo doesnt have a bullet sealer. Not the most accurate ammo but consider the cost. The cost has gone up quite a bit from last year on the x39 but the 223 has stayed about the same. Shot some 62 gr 223 Wolf thru my mini 14 and it worked but was not accurate, about 5 inches at 100 yards. I wouldnt buy it for a bolt gun unless you just want to plink. Handloading is best for the 223 and you can come up an inexspensive and accurate load easily.