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1tomcat
05-28-2006, 12:36 PM
Mabe I am just behind the times but notice you now have to show your drivers license to buy powder also it is getting scarce at least it is here.
Should this be anything to be concerned about

Cheezywan
05-28-2006, 01:02 PM
I would be interested to hear the "why?" part of the identification. Might be a lawyer thing?

The scarce part is probably energy related. Also have found that alot of places don't like to keep a large inventory. It is off-season now for hunting. I am just speculating.
Cheezywan

recoil junky
05-28-2006, 01:28 PM
Supplies around here are good, it's just the price that's a killer. Was in Ennis MT a couple of weeks ago and stopped at Shedhorn Sports where an old friend Rob Gallentine is the proprietor. He has the best price and selection of powder I've seen in some time. It even rivals Sportsman's Warehouse. Reloaderes from Bozeman come over to get their supplies and well end up buying a gun because his prices on firearms are lower than about anybody else's too. If it wasn't 600 miles up there I'd get all my stuff from him.

Go to www.shedhornsports.com

RJ

SoftwareJanitor
05-28-2006, 03:16 PM
Mabe I am just behind the times but notice you now have to show your drivers license to buy powder also it is getting scarce at least it is here.
Should this be anything to be concerned about

I've bought a fair bit of powder lately, and never had to show any kind of ID. I bought 16lbs the other day (8lb bottle of IMR 4895 and 8lb of Hodgdon BL-C(2)) and no questions asked. The only reason the Sportsman's Warehouse is ever low on powder is because they sell an awful lot of it. No shortage today when I was in there... they do have a shortage of loaded ammo though -- I bought the last 5 boxes of 150gr FMJ .308 Win ammo they had. They are out of the Wincheter White Box and Remington UMC in most calibers and the Federal American Eagle in a bunch. Sold out of Wolf in 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R again too.

kdub
05-28-2006, 03:34 PM
Think that might just be some local or unique to the store thing. Never have had to produce a driver's license to buy powder - anywhere.

SoftwareJanitor
05-28-2006, 07:17 PM
I would be interested to hear the "why?" part of the identification. Might be a lawyer thing?

The scarce part is probably energy related. Also have found that alot of places don't like to keep a large inventory. It is off-season now for hunting. I am just speculating.
Cheezywan

It is 'in season' for target shooting, especially up north where there are mostly outdoor ranges that are only usable during the late spring to early fall... never really out of season around here, as the weather is good even outdoors most of the year -- thank goodness I don't live in Iowa anymore. :D Also thankfully I live about 5 minutes from a 100 yard indoor (heated and air conditioned) range...

Anyway, the Sportsman's Warehouse near me seems to sell a lot of powder, so they carry a fairly substantial inventory. They are a big chain though, so they can probably afford it, whereas a mom-n-pop shop might not be able to. I suspect the ID thing is either some kind of OK state or local law, or just some kind of wacky paranoia on the part of the particular store. Would be interesting to know if the same thing is true of other stores up in OK. Every state seems to have their own bizzaro laws about something, even down here in TX. For the most part from what I've heard, OK, being a "red state" is fairly reasonable.

Cheezywan
05-29-2006, 06:20 AM
[QUOTE=SoftwareJanitor]It is 'in season' for target shooting, especially up north where there are mostly outdoor ranges that are only usable during the late spring to early fall... never really out of season around here, as the weather is good even outdoors most of the year -- thank goodness I don't live in Iowa anymore. :D Also thankfully I live about 5 minutes from a 100 yard indoor (heated and air conditioned) range...

It is "in season" year round here as well. Outdoors cooking as too. Shooting range is right out the door (or window) for me. The range gets shorter as the corn gets taller.

I think the local ordinence or store policy might be the correct answer. I have not seen any mail order places restrict powder to Oklahoma.
Cheezywan

SoftwareJanitor
05-29-2006, 12:14 PM
It is "in season" year round here as well. Outdoors cooking as too. Shooting range is right out the door (or window) for me. The range gets shorter as the corn gets taller.

Well, I've gotten spoiled by not having to deal with snow or below zero temperatures... :cool: And even though the temperatures are 110 in the shade during the summer months around here, its not nearly so humid as it was where I used to live up there in Des Moines. I think that the neighbors would have gotten a little peeved if I'd have started shooting out my back door. Not very many good shooting ranges around there either. There was an indoor pistol range in Urbandale for a while, but they went out of business pretty quickly. :(

Cheezywan
05-29-2006, 01:42 PM
Well, I've gotten spoiled by not having to deal with snow or below zero temperatures... :cool: And even though the temperatures are 110 in the shade during the summer months around here, its not nearly so humid as it was where I used to live up there in Des Moines. I think that the neighbors would have gotten a little peeved if I'd have started shooting out my back door. Not very many good shooting ranges around there either. There was an indoor pistol range in Urbandale for a while, but they went out of business pretty quickly. :(

I was born in Oklahoma. I have a lot of kin there and in Texas as well. I have interest in what goes on in both states.
As I get older, I have found Iowa summers to be the hardest to bear. I can allways put on more clothes in the winter, but I can't get naked enough in the summer. It is 93 degrees humid and windy as I type this. 40% chance of thunderstorms. I can hear lightning crashes on my shortwave gear.

Oklahoma restricted the sale of some cold remedies awhile back to curb the "meth" trade. It worked. I am proud to report that Iowa did the same and it is working here too.
It crossed my mind when I read this thread that the ID for powder purchace might be related somehow? I can't think through that connection. It must be a store policy.
Cheezywan

gmd3006
05-29-2006, 08:58 PM
I hadda show ID at my local reload shop. They said it was due to the fed homeland security bill. But, they don't ask for it every time. Don't know why - probably just forget to ask sometimes...

SoftwareJanitor
05-29-2006, 11:17 PM
I hadda show ID at my local reload shop. They said it was due to the fed homeland security bill. But, they don't ask for it every time. Don't know why - probably just forget to ask sometimes...

I think they are full of bull-hooey on that one. I'm not aware of anything in the Patriot Act or any recently enacted legislation that requires ID for powder. As I said, I've never been ID'd for powder or ammo and I've bought it from several places around here. I've seen people ID'd for ammo... but they looked like they were in their 20s... I'm an old geezer.

gmd3006
05-30-2006, 06:10 AM
In NY, it's Dick's policy to require a Pistol License to buy "Pistol Ammo".

Now, I've seen rifles in .17, .22 LR & mag, 9, .40, .45acp & LC, .357, & .44. I won't even talk about Contenders.

Don't know how one buys a perfectly legal gift for a pistol owner now.

All the poor slob at the counter knew was that he hadda follow the policy to keep his job.

Such is the way with lawyers…

Just shop elsewhere!

SoftwareJanitor
05-30-2006, 10:27 PM
In NY, it's Dick's policy to require a Pistol License to buy "Pistol Ammo".


Pistol license? :confused: Oh... NY. :mad: Nothing like that required down here in TX, and I don't believe there is such a requirement in OK either.


Now, I've seen rifles in .17, .22 LR & mag, 9, .40, .45acp & LC, .357, & .44. I won't even talk about Contenders.


Some places or some people I've seen refuse to sell "handgun ammo" to those under 21 or to require ID for people who look like they might be in their 20s -- which is I believe is more or less legally correct. However, I think technically they can sell such ammo to those 18 or over as long as it is "for use in a rifle". I've actually heard people behind the counter ask "is it for a rifle or a pistol?" when selling .22LR to a young looking guy... "because if its for a pistol you have to be 21". Of course the customer said it was for a rifle... but no way to know otherwise I guess, just "on your honor".

Its all pretty silly... it really doesn't make sense that you can vote at 18, but can't buy a box of .38 Specials. Or a handgun for that matter. :rolleyes: Heck, most states let 16 year olds drive 4000lb SUVs... and auto accidents kill waaaaaaay more people than all firearms related incidents.

gmd3006
05-31-2006, 08:24 AM
When my son turned 18, a military recruiter called our house looking for him, and I got the fone.

I responded that, my son isn't old enuf to buy a gun, and can't get a pistol license, and isn't old enuf to even buy ammo. Also, the President [ Clinton at the time ] wants to make all that illegal once he does get old enuf. Sorry, I can't encourage my son to support such an administration that so infringes our constitutional rights.

Never heard from them again.

SoftwareJanitor
05-31-2006, 05:37 PM
When my son turned 18, a military recruiter called our house looking for him, and I got the fone.

I responded that, my son isn't old enuf to buy a gun, and can't get a pistol license, and isn't old enuf to even buy ammo. Also, the President [ Clinton at the time ] wants to make all that illegal once he does get old enuf. Sorry, I can't encourage my son to support such an administration that so infringes our constitutional rights.

Never heard from them again.

Pretty sensible answer. Almost all the guys I knew who were in the service at the time hated the Clinton administration...