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tpv
06-05-2006, 06:16 AM
I usually don't check this topic so this question might have already been asked.
With the advent of the .17 rimfire and its increase in speed and accuracy, does anyone make a .22 cartridge with a spire point and a hotter loading.
I know you can't use them in a tube feed but it seems like a good idea otherwise or until someone shines the light on this dumb question
Thx in advance,

Jonas
06-05-2006, 07:08 AM
Haven't seen one yet. You'd figure it'd be CCI, Federal or maybe Aguila who'd do it.

I'm sure there's reasoning why we don't see it that's been posted, but I can't recall.

jonas

Gunslinger2005
06-05-2006, 07:21 AM
I don't recall seeing any spire pointed 22 LR's, but there are spire pointed 22 Mags. Seems like Hornady, CCI, and maybe some others make them.

They work fine in tube magazine rifles too.

faucettb
06-05-2006, 08:10 AM
Because rimfire cartridges have the priming compound in the rim of the case spire points in a tube magazine will pose no problems.

Gismo
06-05-2006, 12:45 PM
No one that I know of makes a spire point in a .22 LR.

tpv
06-05-2006, 02:22 PM
No one that I know of makes a spire point in a .22 LR.Maybe the velocity is just too low on a .22 rimfire to make a spire point bullet anymore useful than the old roundnose.

jpattersonnh
06-05-2006, 02:51 PM
Maybe the velocity is just too low on a .22 rimfire to make a spire point bullet anymore useful than the old roundnose.


I think the issue is a combination of things. Since the bullet would most likely go from 40gr, to 32gr the velocity would increase, but it may not have the mass weight to carry 50 to 75 yards, and kill accurately, or effectively. Maybe the bullet will not fly true. Who knows. JP

ribbonstone
06-05-2006, 03:03 PM
Can run it trhough the vasious ballistic programs...not much advantage at the velocity possible.

The steering end of the bullet has to have a rebated tail...it's a heeled bulleted round. Many people (myself included) think that much of a .22RF's accuracy potential is in (1) how it's crimped and (2) how well that base slugs up/how evenly it slugs up when fired. These things are out of our hands.

Which is a shame...as a good boat tail bullet does it's best work when velocity is low

Will say this..if you could get a run of the spitzers made...lets give them a plastic ballistic tip too...you'd sell a good bit of them. Don't have to be better, just haqve to look cool and people will buy them.

Cheezywan
06-05-2006, 04:31 PM
I think that the above concerns were what "spawned" the Bee, Hornet, and Wasp centerfire cartridges. There is not a whole lot a shooter can do with rimfires other than sort, measure, and weigh. The new 17's are a breath of freash air but, they are limited by the same issues.
I have known a few shooters that have disasembled,tuned, and reassembled rimfires in the quest for more control of thier ammo. They don't do it anymore. It was too much work for too little gain.

A rimfire loading system is for the individual shooter is what will turn the corner! I can imagine most of it. Lots of details to overcome though.

For now, I enjoy the rimfires for what they are. And I shoot alot of them.
Cheezywan