'a man's got to know his limitations' and would someone please tell me what is the average and best group size. handloading 9.5 gr geendot behind a magnus cast 245 gr. RN FP . using the tang and post, elbows on the bench 3+" is the best period. this rifle/bullet combo has taken a staggering amout of experimenting. please heip with your experience, loads anything. sure i can hit a hog or dear which is why the retro rifle but "is that all there is?"

Welcome to the forum cruft. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

As for your question, every rifle/rifleman is different. There are some things you can do to increase a rifle's accuracy such as bedding issues and firelapping a bore. I'm not sure what kind of rifle holders your using, but they can make a difference. How the forarm is held/not held also makes a difference.

Have you tried shooting other rifle/cartridge combos off the same bench system your using for the 38/55? If your getting one inch groups with another rifle off this same system the first thing I would explore is the bedding, then consider firelapping. I would also work loads up and down and work on seating depth.

Don't know if this helps any, but again welcome to the forum.

'a man's got to know his limitations' and would someone please tell me what is the average and best group size. handloading 9.5 gr geendot behind a magnus cast 245 gr. RN FP . using the tang and post, elbows on the bench 3+" is the best period. this rifle/bullet combo has taken a staggering amout of experimenting. please heip with your experience, loads anything. sure i can hit a hog or dear which is why the retro rifle but "is that all there is?"
i don't use greendot. have you slugged the bore, you have to match the bullet dia. w/ the bore dia. + .001-.002".
maybe your bullet is too hard for your velocity, is it a bevel base bullet? i never had good luck w/ those. i have a marlin cowboy in 38-55 and it shoots great. bore dia. =.379"
i use RED RIVER 250 gr. fnl bullets w/ a standard lube, they also offer SPG. 7.1 gr. of reddot, standard rifle primers and winchester brass. by the way, if you didn't know this round was originally developed by ballard for target shooting. REDRIVER sells different sizes also, they are reasonable w/ their prices also. check them out,REDRIVERBULLETS.COM

'a man's got to know his limitations' and would someone please tell me what is the average and best group size. handloading 9.5 gr geendot behind a magnus cast 245 gr. RN FP . using the tang and post, elbows on the bench 3+" is the best period. this rifle/bullet combo has taken a staggering amout of experimenting. please heip with your experience, loads anything. sure i can hit a hog or dear which is why the retro rifle but "is that all there is?"

Iowaloha cruft,
There are three things here that deserve your attention. The rifle, the load, or YOU. The prossess of elimination is called for here. I would start with me! It is easy. Have someone else shoot the rifle.

Next is the load. I have no suggestions to offer. Perhaps someone else will?

Number 3 is the rifle. I can't say much without knowing it?

Welcome to Shooters Forum and I wish you well.

Cheezywan

Let me make a couple of suggestions. First, change that front post to an aperture sight, like the Lyman 17 or Lyman 20 (the tang aperture/front post combo on these rifles really doesn't lend itself to accurate shooting). Second, make sure you're seating your bullets out far enough to minimize bullet jump to the rifling. Those two items have helped my High Walls significantly.

thanks for the advise. took it out a few days ago and reduced distance to 50 yds. took my time and was consistantly under 1". believe the problem is with my sight and must make a determination as to the cost benifit of $300+ from buffalo arms. will look into the lyman. this silly rifle gives me, and everyone adults & childern, so much pleasure. can't leave it home when go to the range. Lord i love to shoot!

It's funny how these things grow on you. About the only rifles I shoot anymore are my 1885 High Walls, and particularly my 45-90 and .454 rifles. I'm about to change the rear Marbles sight on my 45-90 to the Advance Engineering sight (Browning Sight), a nice Vernier Tang sight. The Marbles sight doesn't have enough elevation for my Lyman 20 front sight (would have been marginal even with the original blade), and lacks a bit of rigidity when fully extended.

I think we may be using similar rifles. I have the Browning 1885 in 38-55. Mine has the conventional front sight, with both a rear sight and the Browning tang sight. For me, it shoots better using the rear sight.

The tang sight shoots too high + 5" at 100. I have also noticed the loss of accuracy when the range gets out there, with the post type front sight. I have a globe on an original Winchester 32-40 and I seem to have better luck seeing with that.

As far as accuracy, I have managed about 2 1/2", and that was with a flyer. I also had it well sand bagged.

As far as the loads, I have been shooting factory loads or the equivelant. Just got a mould for some lead casting and will see what I can do with that.

And you are absolutly correct about the fun factor. With the heavy barrel and the medium bore, it is a pure charmer for all who shoot it!

But when I really want to shoot long, it's the Remington rolling block in 40-65. What a stress reliever!
Regards
Bestboss