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Conestoga
07-01-2006, 09:57 AM
Howdy ya'll.
I just got into CAS 'bout a year ago and recently purchased a Winnie '94 .357 (same day CT closed their doors).
I am experiencing about a 10% msifire situation. Don't seem t' make much difference whether its reloads or factory ammo. Appears that on the misfires, the dimple on the primer is not consistent So far, always seems t' fire when I recock the hammer n' let her go.
Any suggestions on what I might look for as a cause or fix?
Sure don't want t' make a wall hanger out of it.
Thanks
LET-CA
07-01-2006, 10:01 AM
Is this a new or used firearm?
william iorg
07-01-2006, 04:10 PM
I am experiencing about a 10% msifire situation.
Is this a cross bolt safety or tang safety?
Believe it or not the two types of rifles are slightly different and the fix is different between them.
I had quite a bit of trouble with my .25-35 equipped with the tang safety. I have been blaming it on Winchester primers as the problem seemed to go away with other brands of primers. Then I found out the real reason. The lower finger is built slightly long and as the hammer goes over center on its way to the firing pin the lower finger is slowing the hammer down.
For a few days I thought I was pretty smart for figuring this out all by myself. It turns out Dave Scovill, Editor of Handloader and Rifle magazines wrote about this problem several years ago and urged everyone to write to Winchester about it.
I only have two tang safety Winchesters, a .410 and the .25-35. The .410 has not has the problem.
Conestoga
07-01-2006, 06:26 PM
[ UOTE=william iorg]Is this a cross bolt safety or tang safety?
Believe it or not the two types of rifles are slightly different and the fix is different between them.
I had quite a bit of trouble with my .25-35 equipped with the tang safety. I have been blaming it on Winchester primers as the problem seemed to go away with other brands of primers. Then I found out the real reason. The lower finger is built slightly long and as the hammer goes over center on its way to the firing pin the lower finger is slowing the hammer down.
For a few days I thought I was pretty smart for figuring this out all by myself. It turns out Dave Scovill, Editor of Handloader and Rifle magazines wrote about this problem several years ago and urged everyone to write to Winchester about it.
I only have two tang safety Winchesters, a .410 and the .25-35. The .410 has not has the problem.[/QUOTE]
Slim,
I have the tang safety, What do you suggest?
Conestoga
Conestoga
07-01-2006, 06:27 PM
Slim
I have the tang safety. What do you suggest?
william iorg
07-01-2006, 06:54 PM
Slim
I have the tang safety. What do you suggest?
It will take me a day or so to get my thoughts on paper. In the mean time if you have the November 2003 issue of Rifle, Dave Scovill has explained it very well.
I have intened to write this up and add to the .25-35 thread so I will get busy and get my thoughts on one sheet of paper.
The only difference between my fix and Scovill's is I took less material off the bottom strut. Dave may have the better fix but I thought with Winchester out of buisness I had better be careful. Dave does say that if you take off too much material you must return the rifle to the factory as they will not sell the parts to us "hacksaw" mechanics!
Edit] To get you started here is the link for the crossbolt safety clean up. You will want to do the general clean up anyway.
http://www.time-slice.com/mohave.gambler/favorites/LeverGuns/Winchester94.htm
Conestoga
07-03-2006, 11:04 AM
Is this a new or used firearm?
It's a brand-new one!
Gismo
07-03-2006, 04:20 PM
I never liked those rebounding hammers. Keeps you from getting a full hit with the hammer every time. I did away with the rebounding hammer, and fixed it. I had a Marlin 39A with a rebounding hammer that was not accurate. Removed the rebounding hammer strut and solved my problems. Might be that the main spring is not strong enough to handle the rebounding hammer.
I have a compact in 30-30. Most of my misfires are with reloads. It seems if I size the shell fully so it falls in the chamber it doesn't misfire. If it does misfire I usually have to open the action and close it hard for it to fire. I have had it to a gun smith twice and the trigger is better but it still misfires. Mine has the tang safty. I would really like to be able to tust this gun so I can take it hunting. Looking forward to any help you can give.
Thanks
RWB
william iorg
07-12-2006, 04:39 PM
I have written a sort of "how-to" on the tang safety guns but I need to take a couple of pictures to go with it.
I am taking a summer class at the local Univ and that is slowing me up a little. I'll try to get it finished - and my words will certainly not be "the Last Word"on how to fix it! :)
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