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mrbubba
07-19-2006, 02:47 PM
Hi, Mr Bubba again! (Oh no! Not him again, where's the next button?) ;-) I was in Texas recently, and saw a sign as I was walking into an office. It said something like "Under penal code 123-456, persons with concealed handgun permits may not enter these premises while in posession of a firearm". Upon further research, I found that any private entity may do this as they please, as long as they comply with the state's sign requirements. If you violate this, it will result in a fine up to $4000 and jail time up to one year! I know other states either have no provisions for this, or police will issue a tresspass warrant, escort you off the property and send you on your way (except at the post office or courthouse). On the other hand there are those northeastern states that issue chp's, but they're not really good for anything, but I expected more from Texas! I understand not wanting people carrying guns in bars, liquor stores, courthouses, etc., but Tx has a whole page of places you can't carry in! It seems silly to issue the permit - Tx has a very detailed and involved training course - and then not let people carry anywhere! But those signs still get me! I don't like guns, so I'll stick up a sign and not let those crazy gun toters in. I wonder what would happen if someone who didn't care for homosexuals put up a sign that read "Under moral code 123-456, no legally married homosexual may enter these premises while accompanied by their life partner". I'll bet th aclu would crawl so far down their neck they'd see daylight again! But I think the nra had a hand in writing Tx's law - man, talk about compromises! If any one cares to respond about how the law works in their state, I would appreciate the info. I imagine up in ne us and in ca, the laws make Tx's look good, but let me know anyway. This is actually not just a second ammendment issue, but a civil rights violation as well. It is discrimination against those of us who have made a descision to protect ourselves.

MikeG
07-19-2006, 03:01 PM
Thanks for your feedback.

Actually, I've seen very few places in the state that are posted. Fortunately, the exact requirements make such a big ugly sign (because the letters have to be at least one inch tall and in both English and Spanish), that few places bother to post.

It was a booger getting the original CHL passed, and it's been inproved quite a bit each legislative session since. We had to boot one governor (Ann Richards) out of office, and a bunch of democrats out of the legislature, as well.

Compromise? Sometimes it's necessary for progress.

Generally, I just don't go into places that post, if I can at all avoid it. I think we have pretty decent regulations of this nature.... at least it's a shall-issue state. And we have a fair amount of reciprocity with other states.

A good point raised is that each state is in fact different, and you'd best know the laws before traveling (even with reciprocity from other states).

Charley
07-19-2006, 03:51 PM
In my experience, very few businesses go to trouble of posting properly. The 30.06 sign is the ONLY legal written notice...a sign with a picture of a handgun with the slash across it, and the words "No guns allowed" is not coinsidered legal notice.There is a fairly short list of places where CHL holders may not carry, but it isn't as bad as many other states.

Best way to deal with businesses that post? Spend your money with a competitor, and send the reciept and a letter to the business explaing why the money didn't go to them. This has been pretty effective. I won't patronize a business that posts.