View Full Version : Liberal, out of state, interlopers
jpattersonnh
08-12-2006, 04:53 PM
Well this is a tough subject. It is hunting related, but has a specific political group destroying our past time. I have experienced people bashing pans, blasting horns, using fool language, all aimed at hunters. NH does have laws on the books to protect hunters rights, but they are seldom enforced. Bow hunters suffer most! I don't hunt the southern part of the state anymore, but I have found some very promising spots where I live and would like to hunt there. Do hunters need to set up a watch group on the roads to be able to hunt? I am tired of out of state folks playing games! If Hunters react, we are the aggressors, we have guns, even if they are not discharged. We take a beating in the Boston media, the papers here are no better. What can be done? I would like to hunt the 30 X 150 mile southern stretch of the NH- Mass Border. Any Idea's? JP
We have a mixture of anti-hunting groups that do that here - and, INCLUDING HUNTERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR UNIT TAG TO OPEN!
Talk about unethical.
Hunter harrassment is against the law in most states. Law enforcement is stretched pretty thin during the seasons enforcing game laws, let alone trying to quell the noise makers. Lord help the frustrated hunter that cracks and tries to extract vengence.
I've had gun owners show up while I'm hunting, set up targets and commence WWIII with semi-auto AK's and such, full knowing hunters are in the area. Same with dirt bike riders blasting down forest trails and jockeying the throttles with no mufflers. Matter of fact, my older brother and I were forced off a narrow footpath one time by a group of trail riders doing such. Each was armed to the teeth and challenging us with their eyes to say something to them about it.
Jerks is the only thing that comes to mind.
Kragman71
08-12-2006, 06:11 PM
We have a mixture of anti-hunting groups that do that here - and, INCLUDING HUNTERS THAT ARE STILL WAITING FOR THEIR UNIT TAG TO OPEN!
Talk about unethical.
Hunter harrassment is against the law in most states. Law enforcement is stretched pretty thin during the seasons enforcing game laws, let alone trying to quell the noise makers. Lord help the frustrated hunter that cracks and tries to extract vengence.
I've had gun owners show up while I'm hunting, set up targets and commence WWIII with semi-auto AK's and such, full knowing hunters are in the area. Same with dirt bike riders blasting down forest trails and jockeying the throttles with no mufflers. Matter of fact, my older brother and I were forced off a narrow footpath one time by a group of trail riders doing such. Each was armed to the teeth and challenging us with their eyes to say something to them about it.
Jerks is the only thing that comes to mind.
We seem to have more then a fair share of Anti Hunters here in New York.I have,on several occasions,been harasssed by them. I do believe that the law preventing this is,to some extent,a success.I haven't seen or heard of them localy,in the last several years.
I'm still hunting the same placws,too.
Frank
M1894
08-12-2006, 06:22 PM
Water skiers harass the fishermen just as bad here. One of the fishermen got even last week, he threw a live Cotton Mouth in their ski boat as it went past him around 4 feet away. Lots of swimmers. I thought it was funny when they came in complaining. They were in a no wake zone doing their thing. Must have been bothering the fisherman before. Otherwise why would he have a snake in the boat with him. Needless to say they didn't get much satisfaction. Told them they could call the Ranger for the park, and he would probably write them a Citation for Violating the No Wake Zone Rule.
Shawn Crea
08-13-2006, 08:48 PM
Water skiers harass the fishermen just as bad here. One of the fishermen got even last week, he threw a live Cotton Mouth in their ski boat as it went past him around 4 feet away.
Now that's creative!
I haven't experienced any anti-hunter harassment here, but as Idaho goes, it's a fairly hunter-friendly state. Most we usually get is "letters to the editor". One of my friends, however, last year had some other "hunters", who knew they were making a stalk (they saw them) on a big bull elk about 400 yards out, lob some shots at that bull from about 800 yards. There were words exchanged over that, and the slob hunter's partner apologized for his buddy's behavior. Of course, the slobs didn't even go see if they had connected - not likely at 800 yards, but I guess slobs arent' concerned in those situations.
Maybe hunters that are harassed could start carrying paintball guns and stalk the harassers and tag them!
recoil junky
08-14-2006, 05:20 AM
Around here it's hunters harassing other hunters. Had 4 guys on three 4 wheelers bristling with guns come charging up a road on BLM where we were set up waiting for the elk to cross the fence. Jerkwads came from private ground to "herd" the elk back on to their piece before the elk could get onto the BLM.
All I could do was throw my hands in the air and voice my opinion about their parentage.
I've heard of several other instances of this type of behavior here. It's to bad hunting has gotten to be such a rich man's game.
RJ
jpattersonnh
08-14-2006, 08:04 AM
I guess a camera is the only option. Can't use a paint-ball gun, that is assault. Using motorized vehicles the herd or drive game of the purpose of hunting is illegal in most States. I have only once had any success nailing two folks for harassing my hunting partner and myself. We were in the White mountain national forest. I reported them at the Ranger station, and they nailed them. No parking tag, and harassment. http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/recreation/hunting/ These folks traveled almost 200 miles from Mass. to find hunters to harass. I really liked their matching BROWN jumpsuits! Fellow hunters who are not ethical are an issue, but that is usually because they are clueless, or Rednecks. They are the reason I carry a side arm, fully loaded, and extra mags. (legal in NH w/ a carry permit) Kinda sad isn't it! Good luck this year folks, JP
Ruger4570
08-14-2006, 04:21 PM
I really don't like the PETA types, but, in my case.. two different times, they drove a whole herd right up to me and my hunting buddy. We both scored a kill..both times. Thank you PETA.. Can I tell you where I will be hunting this year and get you to help in a deer drive?
peetie
08-14-2006, 06:35 PM
I guess a camera is the only option. Can't use a paint-ball gun, that is assault. Using motorized vehicles the herd or drive game of the purpose of hunting is illegal in most States. I have only once had any success nailing two folks for harassing my hunting partner and myself. We were in the White mountain national forest. I reported them at the Ranger station, and they nailed them. No parking tag, and harassment. http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/forests/white_mountain/recreation/hunting/ These folks traveled almost 200 miles from Mass. to find hunters to harass. I really liked their matching BROWN jumpsuits! Fellow hunters who are not ethical are an issue, but that is usually because they are clueless, or Rednecks. They are the reason I carry a side arm, fully loaded, and extra mags. (legal in NH w/ a carry permit) Kinda sad isn't it! Good luck this year folks, JP
I've been hunting southern Vermont for the past 10+ years, only problem I ever had was a crazy old woman following us through the woods once. We told her to beat it and that was that. Never had a problem w/ kids on 4 wheelers or anything else. Ever hunted the Harriman Res area ? thats where we're hunting this year. Don't expect any problems, but if they come they certainly won't be mine........
JOE LUKSIC
08-14-2006, 06:49 PM
To Be Honest With You Guys,i Think Were A Dieing Breed.in My Part Of N.y.someone Owns Everything.
Ruger4570
08-14-2006, 07:24 PM
There is still a lot of State land open in NY. It isn't like State land in AZ, but quite a bit nonetheless
M1894
08-14-2006, 07:57 PM
P.E.T.A.
P. People
E. Eating
T. Tasty
A. Animals
:p :p :p :p
leverite
08-22-2006, 12:45 PM
Where I hunt in the eastern Cascades, have not seen any anti hunting types or over the top aggressive hunters.
have heard grumblings that the local Indians poach the area out of season, and the bear and cougar get their share of the elk before we can get afield.
Suppose it's just a matter of time before the nutcakes from Seattle come over to save the wildlife from us evil guys.
acrsaved
08-24-2006, 09:23 AM
I was going to say what has already been said - it's against the law in most states to interfere with a hunter, but there's not much you can do about it besides having the ranger number on hand and calling it in with some sort of location and vector.
Most of us may have a camera on hand for memories or pics of the trophy. If you have face to face confrontations you can always snap their picture and turn it into the Ranger with a report. They will not be happy you have their picture - and let them try to take your camera from you...
The only thing I hunt on public land in MD are yotes at night after the seasons. The Frederick County watershed (the area's largest hunting plot) is like a pumpkin patch first day of season. Cars are triple parked. It's like waiting to get into Busch Gardens. Hunt on private propertry in VA and PA.
You also have folks there are just totally out of touch with hunting seasons; like riding bikes through the watershed during deer season with a white helmet on, or folks strolling around or cycling in red blue and purple clothing in turkey season.
I'll just add that you can find land owners willing to lease time during season. Usually they will reduce the price for part of the harvest. If there's no pleasant place to hunt publically, this might be your next step.
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If the Lord wanted me to just eat brocolli, He'd have made it taste like bacon.
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