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fremont
08-25-2006, 05:06 PM
Pulled a tag for a mid Sept WY antelope hunt. Loaded Hornady 150 SSTs over both IMR4350 and H414; going with H414 as the groups seem a tad tighter out of my M70 (sub-MOA).

Anyone used the SSTs on antelope.....specifically interested in hearing anything about the 150s.

kdub
08-25-2006, 06:17 PM
Should work fine - they work great for whitetail.

You say 150 gr, but fail to say what cartridge.

fremont
08-25-2006, 06:27 PM
Should work fine - they work great for whitetail.

You say 150 gr, but fail to say what cartridge.30-06, of course! :D

Hunting with two buddies who are using factory Fed/Nosler 130 BTs out of their 270 Win & 270 WSM.

I'm between .50"-1.00" high at 200 yards at about 2825 MV, so I figure a) my zero is around 215-225 yds. and b) I'll have about 6"-8" drop at 300 yds. (I'm attaching a scan from my Sierra ballistics software table.)

kdub
08-25-2006, 09:03 PM
Should be a good bullet for the prairie goats.

You need to actually shoot at the 250 and 300 yd ranges to determine exactly where POI is with your particular rifle/ammo combination, though. Graphs are good for point of reference, but POI will vary between rifles, weather conditions and shooter. Your sight picture will be slightly different than the next guy with the same rifle.

fremont
08-26-2006, 12:57 AM
Should be a good bullet for the prairie goats.

You need to actually shoot at the 250 and 300 yd ranges to determine exactly where POI is with your particular rifle/ammo combination, though. Graphs are good for point of reference, but POI will vary between rifles, weather conditions and shooter. Your sight picture will be slightly different than the next guy with the same rifle.200+ yd ranges are far & few between. Good point, though.

kdub
08-26-2006, 05:11 PM
Admire your hunting area for shots of less than 200+ yds.

Used to hunt Wyoming extensively in the Douglas/Lance Creek area and only had one shot at less than 200. Most were in the 250-300 yds range. At that time, had a customized '03A3 in '06 and used Nosler 165 gr bullets. The last 'goat was taken with a Ruger M77 in 7mm RM using 160 gr bullets. My rancher friend hunting with me, after examining the offside exit hole, said "That would make a great elk gun!" :p

fremont
08-26-2006, 06:18 PM
I'm causing confusion....I meant it's tough around these parts to find a bona fide shooting range with target stands > 200 yards. Your right that shots are bound to be longer.

My buddy is setting this up. We're supposedly WNW of Casper. Can't remember Area #.

bearmgc
08-28-2006, 01:30 PM
You're in Wyoming.... 250-300 target ranges are everywhere. Set one up in the desert on BLM and you're ready to go. You can even practice hill and gully shots. But better get crackin before the season starts. Actually, I've only had to make one shot longer than 200yds in 12 years of antelope hunting. Walk in before dawn, set up and don't move.

fremont
08-30-2006, 08:57 PM
Don't wanna put the cart in front of the horse, but how about a good antelope chili recipe? (Like an actor, I need "motivation.")

bearmgc
08-30-2006, 10:39 PM
I've used antelope sausage, cut up, fried with onions, add 2 cans of tomatoes, tomatoe juice, some chili powder, salt, pepper. Simmer. Add a Can of kidney beans right toward the end of simmering.

Jimbo
09-10-2006, 03:55 PM
Here's a great antelope chili recipe: Throw away the antelope, buy a can of hormel chili and enjoy! :D

kdub
09-10-2006, 04:42 PM
Oh, c'mon now, Jimbo!!!

Everybody knows if you slather enough BBQ sauce on ANYTHING, it will taste like BBQ! :D

The secret for prairie goats (goats - the only hooved animal with a gall bladder. Antelope have gall bladders.) is to yank the guts and hide as quickly as possible and into a cooler with ice, especially if they have been run for any distance. Antelope can spoil very quickly.

fremont
09-25-2006, 08:07 PM
Arrived in Casper on Thursday, greeted by a passing cold front, with plummeting temperatures and 25+ MPH winds. Friday broke wet, windy & cold. After lunch, I had a chance on a nice buck at about 300 yards (lasered after the shot at 294). The wind was blowing from 10 o'clock in the high-20s, with 30+ gusts. Animal was facing right, slightly quartering away; I held near center point of back and hit the buck in the neck--didn't twitch. Bullet easily moved 18" laterally in flight. (30-06 with Hornady 150 SST @ 2850 MV.) Lost lots of blood at exit wound, with SST easily going thru. I'm impressed with the bullet. Just shy of 78" with one side having a 6"+ prong.

I'm less impressed with using a 30-06 in that sort of territory. Unless it's a 25-06. (Or, maybe, a 25-06 A.I.) I hunted with a guy with a 270 WSM and his shot was <100 yards. Go figure....

I'd also consider using a heavier bullet for long-distance shots. Seems like the higher BC and weight might stabilize better in windy conditions. ??

So, I'm posting a poll over at the rifle section to get people's opinions on the "perfect" antelope rifle. (I'm also dusting off "Pet Loads" to see what Ken Waters has to say about the 264 Win Mag.....from what I read tonight, he's not impressed.)

kdub
09-29-2006, 10:40 AM
Might be waiting a while for RJ to be in any magazine for a while. Evidently, the settlement with Winchester took his welcome away from a lot of the rags.

He may be publishing some books in the future, though. At least, that's the rumors going around the internet.

fremont
09-29-2006, 11:04 PM
Might be waiting a while for RJ to be in any magazine for a while. Evidently, the settlement with Winchester took his welcome away from a lot of the rags.

He may be publishing some books in the future, though. At least, that's the rumors going around the internet.Jamison, Winchester, settlements......news to me

alyeska338
09-30-2006, 12:35 AM
Jamison, Winchester, settlements......news to me
http://shootersforum.com/showthread.htm?t=30995

fremont
09-30-2006, 08:37 AM
Found it on the web last night. So.....how badly does Rick have these guys over a barrel?

kdub
09-30-2006, 04:41 PM
Only the participants know - no one is talking.

bearmgc
10-04-2006, 01:10 PM
Took a nice antelope at 92 lazered yds. Stalking does work.

fremont
10-04-2006, 08:13 PM
Took a nice antelope at 92 lazered yds. Stalking does work.This year? What are the details?

bearmgc
10-06-2006, 07:14 AM
Yeah, this year, like Sep 27, near Farson. A few small meadows with some gulleys near by. Walked the gulley, set up, waited. First a small group of does came by. I stuck my head up too soon, and they started snorting and moving. I thought, crap, I messed up. Then from the opposite direction, a nice big doe came down and stopped and started feeding. I lined it up and took a broadside shot with the 30-06 Nikon Monarch 2-7x32, and a 165gr SPBT. She went maybe 5 steps and tumbled down. It was 6:30pm, only my second day out. Skinned and iced and back home. Meat all in the freezer by midnight. A good hunt! Antelope tend to do a circular routine daily, if not disturbed much; water, food, bedding down. Sounds simple but looking for the right combination, you run into them with patience. The Big Sandy river was about 400yds NE of the little meadows, and a fenceline kinda made their route a little more direct and predictable. Fremont, good to hear you got a nice buck.

fremont
10-11-2006, 09:21 PM
Here's a great antelope chili recipe: Throw away the antelope, buy a can of hormel chili and enjoy! :DJimbo, I'm happy to say I didn't take you up on your suggestion! 1.5#-2# of cubed antelope backstrap, 1 can original style Rotel tomatoes, chili powder, cumin, cayenne, some poultry seasoning, water, beef broth, tomato sauce and paste, then beans at the end. Had 3 buddies over for dinner tonight with cornbread and some antelope Polish sausage served with stoneground mustard. That, and some cold cervezas. EVERYONE was happy!! :D

tuck2
12-02-2006, 01:25 AM
The February 2005 No, 233 issue of Handloader Ammunition Reloader Journal ,starting on page34 --New Powders In The .264 Winchester Magnum-- One of the reloads listed was 69.0 Gr of Ramshot Magnum powder with a 140 Gr bullet , With a 26 inch barrel the bullet ft/sec muzzle velocity was 3,240 ft/sec. I reload a 140 Gr Hornady SST bullet in front of 68.5 Gr of Magnum powder with a Remington 9 1/2 primer in a Winchester case. C.O.L. 3.271 inch. I get 3,187 ft/sec with the reload out of my Win Mdl 70 Classic Sporter w / a 26 inch barrel. Remington is now makeing a Mdl 700 in the .264 Win.

fremont
12-02-2006, 08:19 AM
My entry into this market is my in-process 6.5-06 Ackley. 26" Pac-Nor on order with 1:8" twist. My new 'lope gun!

Bird Dog II
01-12-2007, 03:03 PM
30-06, of course!

Well put! You should only have to name the cartridge if it's anything other than: "The Standard".

I would think a 150 SST would be nails for lope.

gomerdog
01-14-2007, 05:34 PM
Fremont,

How right you are! Antelope make excellent table fare, if taken care of properly. Occasionally, I am lucky enough to draw an early permit for Area 107 near Lander, WY when only muzzleloaders and handguns are legal. Sometimes the gods smile and I do kill one. Immediately, upon getting it back to my truck, I bone out the meat and put it on ice (gallon milk jugs containing frozen water works for me). Sometimes I keep it cool for a few days by changing the ice jugs and then cut it up when time is more convenient. Fried slowly in butter, with a little salt and pepper, I could never grow tired of it. Roasts simmering all day in the crock pot with carrots and spuds, seasoned with onion and mushroom soup mix is a fast and easy way to have supper ready when you get home from work. Hamburger meat mixed with some beef fat and formed into patties tastes super off the grill. To me, only elk tastes better.