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DEPUTYDOUG64
08-26-2006, 03:17 AM
Has anyone set up their 336 with the scout scope set up and what do they think of it? What type of scope would you recommed...

Kart29
08-29-2006, 09:47 AM
Has anyone set up their 336 with the scout scope set up and what do they think of it? What type of scope would you recommed...


I just ordered the parts last week and everything should be shipped tomorrow. I can't wait!

I'll let you know more in a week or so.

I have a 12 ga. shotgun with a red dot mounted on the rib of the barrel in a scout scope position. I can't believe how fast and easy it is to aim. I just keep both eyes open, point the gun, and when the red dot is on what I want to shoot, I pull the trigger. This is what got me interested in putting a scout scope on my 336.


From my research I've found the following:

1. Scopes. You have your choice between Burris, Leupold and Nikon. The Nikon is a variable power model and costs over $400. I didn't look past the price tag...maybe it's an option for you. the Burris ($200) and the Leupold ($260) are similar but the Leupold has a 22' field of view at 100 yards and the Burris has only 15' fov at 100 yds. For this reason I chose to go with the Leoupold. I read that a company called NC Star also makes inexpensive scout scopes but IMO they're not the quality of scope I wanted on my rifle.

Some folks use a pistol scope in a scout scope application and have had good results. Others say the eye relief is not optimum for a scout scope. I do know this: the parallax setting on a pistol scope is probably going to be something like 25 or 50 yards and so not ideal for a rifle. A rifle scope will have the parallax adjusted for 100 yards which would serve our purposes better.

2. mounts. Makers are XS (formerly called Ashley or AO) and Wild West Guns. The WWG looks like a quality piece but it requires the barrel to be drilled and tapped for attachment. the XS lever scout mount uses the rear sight dovetail and the front two scope mount holes on the receiver.

3. Rings. Consensus seems to be that you want LOW height rings - preferrabley quick detach so you can pop off the scope if there is a problem with it or the weather gets nasty. Alternatives for rings are Warne QRW rings and Leupold QDR rings. I found some Burris Zee QD rings and I like them very well.

4. Backup peep sights. Since the scout mount will interfere with the existing rear sight, it's nice to mount a peep sight on the receiver so you you have some backup sights should your scope become unusable or disabled in the field. There's lots of options here. XS and Wild West Guns both make ghost ring sights specifically for this application. A less expensive alternative are Williams peep sights including including their WGRS, 5D, and Foolproof models. The WGRS model sits up higher than the 5D or FoolProof model so you will need a different front sight if you add on the WGRS peep sight. You can get the WGRS in a kit that includes the rear peep and the correct front sight. You'll probably also need to ditch the front sight hood if you use the WGRS model.


Most people who have tried the scout scope on their leverguns seem to love it. I've heard of some that don't. Based on my experience with the shotgun I think I'm going to LOVE it. Hopefully I can speak from better experience in about two more days :D

Kart29
08-31-2006, 08:11 AM
UPDATE:

got my scout scope installed last night.

I love it.

I like the way it carries. Much easier to grip it around the receiver and carry it one handed.

I like the FAST target acquisition and both eyes open sighting. Looking through a receiver mounted scope, the shooter looses all peripheral vision. Not so with a scout scope.

I like the idea of having good backup peep sights. Sometimes if its snowing/sleeting/otherwise nasty out, seeing through a scope when you need it can be chancy. Plus, in foul weather like that, you usually can't see farther than you can shoot accurately with iron sights. I like the idea of being able to pop the scope off in a jiffy and still have an accurate dependable sight system.

I like the way it looks.


I think I may have spoke to soon when saying a pistol scope will not have the proper prallax setting for good use in a rifle application. This may or may not be so. I think some pistol scopes actually do have a 100 yard parallax setting. Why I have no idea. It's something you'd better look at before putting a pistol scope on a rifle, though.


Also, I note that target acquisition is NOT as fast as the red dot on my shotgun. This is because of the 2.5X magnification on the scout scope. The red dot has no magnification and I can put the dot on the target faster with it than I can with the scout scope on my rifle.

I tried both the WGRS and 5D Williams peep sight models on the receiver after mounting the scout scope. Both models sit up high enough to "see" over the scout scope mount. The WGRS is much smaller and looks less clunky, but requires a higher front sight and removal of the front sight hood. I opted for the 5D model since it works with the existing front sight, it is easier to adjust, and because the 5D model can be removed from the gun and reinstalled althewhile maintaining its zero.