I spend a good deal of time hunting in a shotgun only county in NY. I have been using the remains of my original BRI sabot slugs in my Savage bolt gun. These have been giving my groups of inch and a half to two inches at 100 yards. Unfortunately, I have run out of them.
Does anyone have any experience with the "Brenneke KO Sabot" round? I have heard that they are really good, and the price is right. What do you think? Where I hunt, the maximum range I can get a shot is just over 90 yards.
If you have any experience with this round, good or bad, please tell me about it.
Thank you
Tweesdad

I would make some comments on slug shooting in rifled barrels, but since Dixie Slugs (my company) does not make sabot rounds, I have to be careful as to what I say.
There has been a gut-cutting going on at the Slug Section of Shotgun World for some time. A new group has taken over and it has become a launch pad for American Slug Shooting Association membership drive.
What all this boils down to is there are two well defined groups that hunt with rifled shotgun barrels. One, of course, is the area of shotgun-only states......These shooters are trying to extend their ranges for deer. The second group, who we sell to, are hunters or large and/or dangerous game in heavy cover. It appears to me that these sabot hunters run from the slug load to another......chasing the mystic 200 yard slug setup?
You may want to visit over there and get some ideas, if you are not satified, come back here and I will discuss the subject in detail.........Regards, James

I don't need any slug gun to shoot that far. I like my smooth bore, which is getting harder and harder to find anyone making them these days, and I like my rifled slugs. Shoot just fine out to 125 yards. Never have reloaded them though.

Friend.....If you get very far into this slug shooting, you will find two very vocal groups involved. One is the slug shooter in shotgun-only states that rate sabot slugs as important as sliced bread! The other group is more or less a take off of hunters that believe in hard cast slugs.....just larger, but the same concept. Which group you lean to should be based on your hunting situation and game.
I have tried to dicuss slug/bullet designs for different hunting needs on some of these forum and was told my products were nothing more than "Flying Bricks"!
I really do not know where you will find un-bias suggestions on those slug shooting forums.....but maybe here at Beartooth Bullets.
Regards, James

I really didn't want to start a thread about the relative merits of different styles of slug. I also don't want to appear to be a jerk. However, all I was looking for was a bit of information about the Brenneke KO round.
I have always tried to match the gun to the game. When I hunt Moose, I use my .338 Win. Mag. When I hunt caribou, I use my .308. I use a 45-70 for Boar. I use a slug gun for deer for two reasons. Firstly, I hunt in a shotgun only county. Secondly, I feel that any 12 gauge slug, at the ranges I shoot, is more than capable of dropping a deer. I've been doing so for the last 45 years.
What I am trying to find out is if the above mentioned slug has any pros or cons I should know about. I see no reason to pay $7.50 plus shipping for 5 rounds, when I can buy the Brennekes for $2.99 a box locally.
So, does anyone have any experience with Brenneke KO Sabot Rounds?
Thank you once again
Twees

I recall the big gun rag stories about how the BRI was the best thing since sliced bread .... over the years, I've come to understand that the freshest bread is that which you slice yourself. I'm not griping on BRI but they did lead the way to going with lighter smaller diameter slugs which did improve the trajectory at range but I'm no fan of giving up pure mass. I've seen the BRI's in action and can't argue the results but I've also seen the same concept used with much lighter projectiles and the results were as expected, little drop in the trajectory and poor performance after impact on game.

I've yet to have the opportunity to try any of the Dixie products but a user on my message board showed some very impressive results with the Dixie Terminators on hogs & deer in GA. He's using the H&R slug shooter or whatever it's called but it's dang sure plenty accurate with the terminators. Judging by the pic's he's sent me of the game and targets, not much more to say than "wow".

Few years back, my brother (who readily buys into hype) went out and got a Remington slug gun and some kind of pistol bullet toting sabots because the gun rag writer said so. He got them to shoot 4" @ 100yds, more than twice what was claimed by the writer. First season he hunted with that combo, he lost three deer he hit between 75 and 100 yards away. Found some blood from all three but never recovered any of them. Of course he didn't admit to this, one of his buddies hunting with him told the truth of how dismal the after impact performance was on these rounds.

Now I've got some of the standard Brennekke (sp?) slugs of various mfg's, Win, Rem, RWS & Barnaul in weights ranging from 7/8 - 1 ounce. Shot from the short smoothbore moss. bbl, they do okay to about 65yds, plenty enough for my needs considering they are limited to critter control. Many years ago I put down a big bore with these type slugs, 7/8oz Win to be exact, not hunting, urban situation. I was much less than impressed by the lack of performance with these. First round found the boiler room at 20 yds and the I put the second one into his head at about 10' while he was charging me.

You can still get BRI slugs loaded by Winchester...
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/65000-8145-2487.html

For whatever it's worth. I took a few of boxes of 3" 12 Ga. Brenneke KO Sabot Slugs to the range, and tried them out. I am totally sold. Although I didn't really do a truly comprehensive test, I did fire a total of three 3 shot groups, after zeroing at 75 yards. This is my normal sight in distance for slugs.
My average group size for the three groups was 1.78" center to center. This is with a Savage bolt gun, with a fully rifled barrel, off a bench.
Darn well good enough for me. If this isn't M.O.D. (minute of deer) I don't know what is.
The slugs shoot, the price is right, I am a winner.
Thanks to all.
Twees

For whatever it's worth. I took a few of boxes of 3" 12 Ga. Brenneke KO Sabot Slugs to the range, and tried them out. I am totally sold. Although I didn't really do a truly comprehensive test, I did fire a total of three 3 shot groups, after zeroing at 75 yards. This is my normal sight in distance for slugs.
My average group size for the three groups was 1.78" center to center. This is with a Savage bolt gun, with a fully rifled barrel, off a bench.
Darn well good enough for me. If this isn't M.O.D. (minute of deer) I don't know what is.
The slugs shoot, the price is right, I am a winner.
Thanks to all.
Twees

Sounds like a winner to me too. Good luck to you this season!

I admit to be somewhat confused.I have a Mossy 12 ga with a smoothe bore rifle barrel,that I use when hunting the Stewart Field hunting area,which will not allow rifles.
What is your personal favorite round for my shotgun.
I won't be shooting a lot of these,so I can afford the most expensive offerings.
Frank

I admit to be somewhat confused.I have a Mossy 12 ga with a smoothe bore rifle barrel,that I use when hunting the Stewart Field hunting area,which will not allow rifles.
What is your personal favorite round for my shotgun.
I won't be shooting a lot of these,so I can afford the most expensive offerings.
Frank
I am not sure what you mean by a "smooth bore rifle barrel". If it is a smooth bore, I had very goog luck with Remington sluggers. There is no benefit to getting anything more expensive. However, if the barrel is rifled. I would not hesitate to go with the Brenneke rounds I just tried.
Hope this helps.
Twees

I am not sure what you mean by a "smooth bore rifle barrel". If it is a smooth bore, I had very goog luck with Remington sluggers. There is no benefit to getting anything more expensive. However, if the barrel is rifled. I would not hesitate to go with the Brenneke rounds I just tried.
Hope this helps.
Twees

The barrel is short,with a rifle type front sight and cylinder bore, instead of rifling.
Frank

The barrel is short,with a rifle type front sight and cylinder bore, instead of rifling.
Frank
OK, I would stay away from sabot slugs period. I had a Rem. 870, with the same type of barrel you have, and with Remington Sluggers I dropped deer like the "Hammer of Thor." I wouldn't even consider anything other than a plain rifled slug in that barrel. Just find a brand your gun likes.
Good Hunting

OK, I would stay away from sabot slugs period. I had a Rem. 870, with the same type of barrel you have, and with Remington Sluggers I dropped deer like the "Hammer of Thor." I wouldn't even consider anything other than a plain rifled slug in that barrel. Just find a brand your gun likes.
Good Hunting


Thank You Sir
I ran a test when I bought the barrel,and those cheap Remingtons shot the best.
Frank