I have just bought a new weaver grand slam and am a bit suspicious about it. I just read a thread by "swamp collie" in which he banged the scope to check if the reticle moved. Can anyone enlighten me about this or any other procedure for checking scope integrity. This forum has opened a whole new world for me, I don't have much contact with other shooters where I live. Thanks for the advice.
Regards
Aramac

PS the leupold mounts and rings are rock solid.

Not real sure what that would show..bang hard enough on any scope and you'll break it.

Have known peopple who tapped on their scope turrets after an adjustment to be sure it was setled in...some of their scopes looked like a mutant wood-pecker had had it's way with them, but tapping seemed to make the owner happy.

Shooting seems the better test. "Squareing": Center a group, then add 10 or 20 clicks of elevation, shoot another group....then add the same number of clicks windage, shoot a group...etc. uyntil you've made a square. A good scope will put the last group back where the first one was.

Might notice your "sqare" is kind of tileted...which would mean the scope and rifle aren't mounted together dead-square. Might notice the scope doesn't come back to where it started...which means your adjustments either slip or have mechanical slack in the system. Might notice you shot a rectangle rather than a square, which means the value of elevation isn't the same as the click value of windage.

This is called boxing a scope and it's a very tough test of a scope. In a perfect world this should make a perfect square and return to zero. Often this is not the case.

If this scope has any warrentee problems I'd be glad to help you as an interface with Weaver if I can. I'm working with them now on getting one of my weaver scopes repaired.

Since Meade optics bought out Weaver, Simmons and Redfield there seems to be some warrentee issues that need resolved between thier product users and the new owners. I'll be talking to them today about my scope.

Bought a Weaver Classic 2x7 pistol scope a while back and must say it has performed great - even when mounted on a 45-70 in a "scout" configuration. I wouldn't worry about the quality until you've tried it and found something that displeases you.

As for assuring the reticle is settled after making adjustments, I used to tap on the turret rings with an empty cartridge case myself. As rs says, this can leave little indentations over time and mar the appearance. The best method if you suspect the reticle needs settling, is to go past the adjusted setting a couple of clicks, then return to the desired setting. Seems to work for me.

Thanks Gents,

I'll be putting it on another trusted rifle in a couple of days and will know then if it's my rifle or the scope. Thanks for the offer Bob, I'll get back to you on it.

Thanks Gents,

I'll be putting it on another trusted rifle in a couple of days and will know then if it's my rifle or the scope. Thanks for the offer Bob, I'll get back to you on it.

Glad to help you out. I just got off the phone with Weaver and they told me they were going to replace my scope without charge that they originally wanted 70 bucks to replace.

Weaver, Simmons and Redfield were bougt from Blount/Allient last year and it's always interesting how they approach their consumers when a change like that is made.

I talked to the fella in charge of customer service for the rifle scope department and there looking very closely at folks such as Leapold and Burris and the warrentee programs offered by those folks. Weather this is true or not will come out in the wash, but they are going to replace my scope.

Some bottom of the line el-cheapo scopes have given me trouble (others have not)...some top-of-the-line well respected scopes have given me trouble (most have not). Not a perfect world.

Usually won't need a test to tell if the scope is a problem...it either won't hold zero or it won't give the adjustments you clicked in.

Some will get kind of stuck, and you'll click in 2MOA of movment and get nothing...dial in another 2MOA and you suddenly get 4MOA (this is what the "turret tappers" are trying to be sure doesn't happen).

Have had scops that gave perfet 1/4MOA clicks in elevation, but gave 1/2MOA clicks in windage....someone put in the wrong thread pitch?...who cares, so long as it was repeatable, i can adjust to it (once you know its there).

Have had them freeze their variable power ring, sticking it at one place......have had the reticule break...have melted one reticule by leting the sun directly shine in...have had them seperate lens elements and turn hazy (one gave a rainbow effect...kind of 1960's)....have had turret adjustments lock up solid...and have had then decide to shift adjustments all on their own. generally, they give good service for a long long time, but there are problem children out there.

Thing is, you'll know there is a problem if you've got a dependable accurate gun...one f the first things I'll do when a rifle goes sour is to switch to a diffent scope (first i'll detail clean it...cleaing is always the first step in ANY gun problem).

So if a brand new scope on a brand new rifle is suspect, will take off the suspect scope, check the mounting system closely and switch scopes for one on another gun that is known to be good...even if I have to put a 2 1/2X on a 500yard varmint rifle to test it out (or a 20X scope on a 30-30), will reach for the known scope to be sure it isn't a rifle problem.

Turned out to be the ammo. Very much recommend the Grand Slam. Thanks to all.

Regards
Aramac

Bought a Weaver Classic 2x7 pistol scope a while back and must say it has performed great - even when mounted on a 45-70 in a "scout" configuration.

KDUB,

I bought this same scope from Natchez because their sales flyer advertised the eye relief as 4 - 12". Weaver's Web site advertised the same. When I got the scope, eye relief looked more like 14 - ??" How did you mount this? I'm using the XS scout system on my 1885G, but even my T/C 2.5-7X32 pistolscope (ER of 12 - ??") is mounted too close for me.

I had a BSA shotgun scope (forgot the model) 1.5-4.5X32 that had a 5" eye relief. Couldn't put on Ghost Ring Sights with the scope mounted, but the scope worked well until the Guide Gun's recoil ate it. Started getting dinner plate groups at 100 yards, so I took the scope off. Then I saw the crosshairs move.... But in spite of the loose crosshairs, it was still pretty accurate. It found the trashcan on the first shot.

Anyone have suggestions on a scope to use as a Scout Scope (other than Leopold and Burris)?

Well, you caught me!

Went back and looked in the vault. Sure enough, the Burrix 2x7 pistol scope is on the Marlin 1895LTD1 and the Weaver Classic 2x7 pistol scope is mounted on the rear sight base of a Swede M96 military rifle.

You must excuse the lapse of memory - BOK and 1894 can relate to this. :D

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You must excuse the lapse of memory - BOK and 1894 can relate to this. :D

Who's BOK? :confused: :confused: :p :p

Went back and looked in the vault. Sure enough, the Burrix 2x7 pistol scope is on the Marlin 1895LTD1 and the Weaver Classic 2x7 pistol scope is mounted on the rear sight base of a Swede M96 military rifle.

:D

My loss. I was hoping you'd found a way. I guess I send the Weaver back today.

You know who BOK is - he's DOK's alter ego!!! :D

You know who BOK is - he's DOK's alter ego!!! :D

I always thought that one EGO was enough for anyone. :D