hello all

i am from the uk and trying to reload american loads in the uk and these are the hulls i have available to me the are winchester and remington

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any help many thanks adam

The Remingtons look like a high brass version of the RTL & STS. A very good shell for reloading and I'm up to 8 reloads on some of them.

The Winchesters with the white plastic base wad aren't the best and definitely not as good as the old one piece AA shells. There are reports of the white basewad coming loose and lodging up the barrel. I won't reload them.

Bye
Jack

thank you

what do you call the winchester hulls ar are the yust the new AA?
do you have ant data for reloading with green dot
many thanks adam

Yes, they're just the new AA. I think there's more than one variation of them.

Your best bet for data is the Alliant website, now that it's back on line. There's over 80 loads listed for the 12 gauge with Green Dot and 1 1/8 oz. shot alone.

http://www.alliantpowder.com/
http://www.alliantpowder.com/reloaders/index.aspx

Bye
Jack

The ones with the white base are the PolyForm cases not the AA. Total differant hull. The new AA's the base goes up into the case about 1/4'' farther.

ok thanks. are they any good? also are rem 209p the same as rem 209 primers as i can only finde the rem 209p listed many thanks adam

The Lyman #4 manual was printed before the white basewad AA was introduced and tomme is right. The white basewad in the AA shell is deeply cupped, with the edge of the cup about 1 15/16" - 48mm from the case mouth. I don't have a polyformed shell handy, but Lyman shows a flat-topped white basewad with a short (1/8"?) flange. I haven't loaded them, but I understand they're medium grade for reloading. Not the best, not the worst.

The Remington 209P or 209 Premier primer is the only primer Remington has made available for 12 gauge to handloaders for at least a dozen years. I'm not sure if they made a 209 that wasn't a 209 Premier after they discontinued the 97 primers. They also made a 57 primer that was smaller in diameter. Just stick to Alliant's data.

Bye
Jack

thanks alot

i looked at the alliant data and some data says rem 209 and some say rem 209p so i thought there was a difference
many thanks adam

This is the box.

Bye
Jack

thank you fore that