J Miller
04-13-2002, 07:55 AM
This is an observation with a question.
I started casting my own handgun bullets in the mid to late seventys. Casting for various.45's, .38's and .357's in both autos and wheel guns. I used wheel weights almost exclusivly and had virtually no leading and very good accuracy. In the last 10 years or so I haven't cast any bullets. I have had to rely on commercial cast bullets. Most of these are bevel based machine cast bullets, and they vary in hardness from maker to maker. It's almost impossible to find a consistant source of good redily available flat based bullets.
(Note: BTB bullets excepted because altho I have purchased some, I haven't been able to get them loaded and tested.)
With the commercial bullets I have used, I get poor accuracy and severe leading. This has happened in autos and revolvers, with standard and magnum loads.
Since I began to read forums such as Beartooth and others I have learned more about bullets than I ever knew. I learned that bullets can be TOO hard, this will cause leading. They can be TOO small for cylinder throats and this will cause leading and very poor accuracy. I have also learned that my dislike for bevel based bullets is founded in fact. Bevel based bullets are more prone to leading than flat based because the powder gasses are more likely to flow around the beveled base than they would a flat base.
I have learned that the chamber throat diameter to barrel GROVE diameter is critical to accruacy and leading in revolvers. And that manufacturers don't care a bit about tightning this critical dimention up.
I have learned some about forcing cones, altho I have yet to get any concrete information about this subject. Every one has a different opinion about this. I would love to find a thourough test article in print.
So having said all this I am again, with spring aproaching thinking of digging out my casting equipment.
My question: What is the hardness of wheel wieght lead?
I have had good luck with this hardness, and figure I might as well go back to it.
What alloy, preferably one that is commercially available, would I ask for?
I would like to get away from the mess of cleaning wheel weights if I can.
Please forgive my lengthy comment.
Any answers and help is greatly appreciated.
JM
I started casting my own handgun bullets in the mid to late seventys. Casting for various.45's, .38's and .357's in both autos and wheel guns. I used wheel weights almost exclusivly and had virtually no leading and very good accuracy. In the last 10 years or so I haven't cast any bullets. I have had to rely on commercial cast bullets. Most of these are bevel based machine cast bullets, and they vary in hardness from maker to maker. It's almost impossible to find a consistant source of good redily available flat based bullets.
(Note: BTB bullets excepted because altho I have purchased some, I haven't been able to get them loaded and tested.)
With the commercial bullets I have used, I get poor accuracy and severe leading. This has happened in autos and revolvers, with standard and magnum loads.
Since I began to read forums such as Beartooth and others I have learned more about bullets than I ever knew. I learned that bullets can be TOO hard, this will cause leading. They can be TOO small for cylinder throats and this will cause leading and very poor accuracy. I have also learned that my dislike for bevel based bullets is founded in fact. Bevel based bullets are more prone to leading than flat based because the powder gasses are more likely to flow around the beveled base than they would a flat base.
I have learned that the chamber throat diameter to barrel GROVE diameter is critical to accruacy and leading in revolvers. And that manufacturers don't care a bit about tightning this critical dimention up.
I have learned some about forcing cones, altho I have yet to get any concrete information about this subject. Every one has a different opinion about this. I would love to find a thourough test article in print.
So having said all this I am again, with spring aproaching thinking of digging out my casting equipment.
My question: What is the hardness of wheel wieght lead?
I have had good luck with this hardness, and figure I might as well go back to it.
What alloy, preferably one that is commercially available, would I ask for?
I would like to get away from the mess of cleaning wheel weights if I can.
Please forgive my lengthy comment.
Any answers and help is greatly appreciated.
JM