View Full Version : looking for load for 454 casull with 20" bbl
tman45
11-18-2006, 02:39 AM
well hi all. i'm looking for some good loads in 300gr, 340gr, 355gr in the beartooth bullets for a 20" barrel puma in 454 casull.
would like to stick to hodgon LiL gun OR H110. not a big deal in the powder.
been using buffalo bore 300gr and 360gr ammo looking to reload my own.
thanks for any info.
tman45
11-19-2006, 10:57 AM
well hi all. i'm looking for some good loads in 300gr, 340gr, 355gr in the beartooth bullets for a 20" barrel puma in 454 casull.
would like to stick to hodgon LiL gun OR H110. not a big deal in the powder.
been using buffalo bore 300gr and 360gr ammo looking to reload my own.
thanks for any info.
well i'm off to go get me a little pig a little over a hours drive from my house. i have 8 300g guffalo bore loads left.
some one have any idea what type of powder buffalo uses and how much powder. looking to work my way up to a good load.
i'll be back later tonight. i hope with a good smoker lol.
unclenick
11-19-2006, 01:57 PM
Have you looked through BTB's technical notes?
Read this one on maximum loads (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/15).
24.1 grains of W296 with the 360 grain GC bullet is used for the primer tests in this one (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/29).
The lighter 280 grain bullet gets 25.8 grains of W296 in this .45 LC. 454 load (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/open_sight/archive_open_sight.htm/19).
The weights you referred to will likely need charges that fall inbetween those two loads if seated to full cylinder length. A longer nose seats deeper for a given OAL, and so will need less powder to reach pressure. Be aware that W296 and H110 have a history of failing to ignite well and of letting bullets get stuck in the barrel as a result of being loaded down too far. This is the reason the powder companies don't like you to reduce factory recommended maximum loads by more than 3%, It isn't so likely to squib out with a heavy bullet because it accelerates slowly, giving the powder more time to build start pressure. But in a bullet for which no factory load is listed, I start with a load for the next heavier bullet, reduce it 10%, carry a brass rod and hammer with me to the range for knocking out a stuck bullet, then stay extra alert for any funny feeling shot.
Open your action and look down the tube if you don't see a hole appear or a target react to a test round. One should be able to tell by sound and recoil, but the brain can get stupid in the excitement of a range session and especially that of a hunt. During workup, observe the target shooter's habit of looking through the spotting scope and finding the hole after every shot. Open and look or see that your brass rod drops all the way through the tube if you don't get a new hole.
Nick
tman45
11-19-2006, 09:41 PM
Have you looked through BTB's technical notes?
Read this one on maximum loads (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/15).
24.1 grains of W296 with the 360 grain GC bullet is used for the primer tests in this one (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/tech_notes/archive_tech_notes.htm/29).
The lighter 280 grain bullet gets 25.8 grains of W296 in this .45 LC. 454 load (http://www.beartoothbullets.com/open_sight/archive_open_sight.htm/19).
The weights you referred to will likely need charges that fall inbetween those two loads if seated to full cylinder length. A longer nose seats deeper for a given OAL, and so will need less powder to reach pressure. Be aware that W296 and H110 have a history of failing to ignite well and of letting bullets get stuck in the barrel as a result of being loaded down too far. This is the reason the powder companies don't like you to reduce factory recommended maximum loads by more than 3%, It isn't so likely to squib out with a heavy bullet because it accelerates slowly, giving the powder more time to build start pressure. But in a bullet for which no factory load is listed, I start with a load for the next heavier bullet, reduce it 10%, carry a brass rod and hammer with me to the range for knocking out a stuck bullet, then stay extra alert for any funny feeling shot.
Open your action and look down the tube if you don't see a hole appear or a target react to a test round. One should be able to tell by sound and recoil, but the brain can get stupid in the excitement of a range session and especially that of a hunt. During workup, observe the target shooter's habit of looking through the spotting scope and finding the hole after every shot. Open and look or see that your brass rod drops all the way through the tube if you don't get a new hole.
Nick
thanks unclenick a little scarry about the hammer and rod lol but hodgdon says the 3% on their site to. thanks for the info.
yes i did read the first one it is a good post and tuesday my chronograph should be in then i will order some beartooth bullets.
looking foward to some new loads since i'm down to 7 loads now since i took a 85 pound pig. going back in the early am to get one more.
stoped off at walmart tonight on the way home to get another pig tag. $16.90 now for one tag. i miss buying the book of 5 tags for $7.50.
thanks again cant wait to load some new ammo.
Gunnut45/454
11-21-2006, 06:21 PM
tman45
I shoot a 300gr WFGC with 30.5 gr H110-dupicates Hornadys load for there XTP-mag.
Comes out at 1998 FPS of my Puma. Start at 28.5 and work up! The biggest bullet I shoot is 325 gr RNGC and that runs 1875 fps in my gun.
tman45
11-21-2006, 07:54 PM
tman45
I shoot a 300gr WFGC with 30.5 gr H110-dupicates Hornadys load for there XTP-mag.
Comes out at 1998 FPS of my Puma. Start at 28.5 and work up! The biggest bullet I shoot is 325 gr RNGC and that runs 1875 fps in my gun.
Thanks Gunnut, this is what i'm looking for somewhere to start cant wait.
what you use that load for elk/deer. thanks.
Gunnut45/454
11-23-2006, 04:30 PM
tman45
Out to about 125 yds it will take any thing in the lower 48! And that 125 yd limit is me without scope!
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