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ccw9mm
11-26-2006, 04:24 PM
Next week, I'll be picking up my new Marlin 1894P rifle (.44mag 16-1/4" ported barrel).

Question: Do you recommend a specific procedure be followed for breaking-in the barrel, to squeeze out the most accuracy and reliability?

As this one has never been shot, I'd prefer to do it right, if that's an issue. And, since it has been ~35yrs or so since I watched cousins to a break-in of a .30-06 rifle, I simply can't recall if it's crucial to do in this sort of gun (lever big-bore pistol caliber).

MikeG
11-26-2006, 08:35 PM
Welcome to the forum. Rules are simple, be nice and join in.

Personally... I'd just shoot the snot out of it, and enjoy. We're not talking a Nesika Bay benchrest action with Shilen barrel, exactly.

There's a bunch of similar threads, and you'll get a wealth of opinions.

Good luck with your new toy!

ccw9mm
11-26-2006, 10:00 PM
Searched a variety of ways, but did not find any threads discussing pros/cons of a given method of break-in. Which is why I asked.

Anyone else?

pastorp
11-27-2006, 06:58 AM
ccw, some folks like to clean after every few shots for the first hundred rounds or so. Personally I don't. I just shoot and clean the bore when it gets real dirty. I think more bores are worn by excessive cleaning than by shooting. Have fun with the new rifle. Byron

unclenick
11-27-2006, 12:20 PM
There is much disagreement about break-ins. The purpose is to use copper jacket metal to burnish down tool marks that tend to abrade and accumulate jacket metal. The principle is to fire and clean alternately so that between shots you remove any jacket metal that attached to a rough spot, thus re-exposing that spot to the burnishing action of the next bullet. After you have done this enough times, the rough spot is supposed to get burnished down so it grabs and accumulates bullet metal less aggressively.

A standard procedure I’ve seen repeated over the years is to clean between each of the first 20 shots, from the breech, using only a non-etching copper solvent cleaner (like Butch’s Bore Shine), then cleaning every third shot for the next 30 rounds, then every fifth shot for the next 50 rounds. This is a total of forty cleanings. Thereafter the barrel is to be cleaned every 10 (benchrest) or 20 (all other applications) rounds (if possible) and when you are puting it away for the rest of its useful life.

There are several problems with the concept. First of all, the gradual fade from cleaning every round to cleaning every 10 or 20 makes no sense. If you are cleaning to re-expose rough metal, how does it help to let it accumulate three shots worth of metal and then five between cleanings? Why not just clean every shot for the first 40 rounds, so you always expose the roughest spots to every bullet? If you want to clean every three rounds to learn how your first shot and two follow-ups change point of impact for a hunting circumstance, well, that’s a separate purpose and experiment, to my mind.

The second thing is that steel is so much harder than copper jacket alloy, you can’t generally expect the copper to burnish it very effectively. I can believe jackets will tear loose wire edges and burrs and knock down a few of the very thinnest and tallest reamer mark edges. However, these will only be present in significant quantities in cut rifled barrels that have not been lapped. Most mass-produced barrels are made by button rifling or hammer forging, which tend to burnish as they go, leaving little for a break-in to accomplish. I suspect the break-in concept was developed between the wars, when cupro-nickel jackets fouled more and mass-produced barrels were still cut rifled, but not lapped. Only broach cut barrels would resemble this today. I believe your Marlin is button rifled.

The only really significant reduction in fouling from messing with barrel surfaces that I’ve ever accomplished has been through fire-lapping. This truly knocks out imperfections and irregularities and can reduce required cleaning effort by a factor of three or more. I recommend you go this route if you intend to fire cast bullets. Because of the port, you will probably find gas-checked cast bullets are best to avoid splattering lead out of the port.

If you decide to perform a break-in anyway, keep in mind you will have to remove your lever and bolt and ejector to clean from the breech. Real barrel damage from excess cleaning almost always takes the form of funneling of the rifling near the muzzle due to the rod bearing against the rifling during cleaning from the muzzle; especially if it is done with a segmented steel rod, as the Garand was cleaned by soldiers.

Keep aware that even a bronze brush, if reversed in mid-stroke, can mark a bore. I would clean first with a copper solvent cleaner like the one I mentioned, and use a plastic jag if you want to be able to tell when there is no more copper being removed. I would then follow up using JB bore compound, Remington 40X, or Iosso Bore Cleaner (my favorite) applied to a patch wrapped tightly around a 1-caliber undersize nylon bore brush, stroking back and forth 20 times, then followed up by a wet and a dry patch to remove the black remnants. This will lightly polish the bore, helping round the sharp edges, and will probably do more than the bullets themselves to help reduce fouling.