I'm seriously thinking of picking up a Savage Model 11 with Accutrigger in .243 as a coyote gun. If any of you own a Model 11, I'm curious to know how accurate you find it.

Savage is making some very accurate rifles and the accutrigger is very good. I wouldn't hesitate to get one. I'm a Remington fan and like the way they feel and look. Only gripe I have with the Savage is there just plain ugly.

I shoot two different 243's for yotes a Remington 700 VLS 26 inch heavy bbl and a Ruger #1B 26 inch bbl. I've found that the VLS with the heavy bbl is really to heavy to pack and the 8.5 pound ruger is much better. If you intend to hunt yotes with a 243 consider trying the Nosler 55 grain bullets. I've found there very effective and at just under 4000 fps shoot very flat. With any 243 load don't expect to harvest coyotes. If you want to harvest you will need to go to the 204 Ruger or the 17 Remington. Anything else punches holes all the way thru and are way to destructive on pelts.

I also just picked up an 8.5 pound CZ Varmit in 204 Ruger. Shoots as flat as a 22-250 with low enough recoil that you can watch your hits.

I'm king of torn between the .223 and the .243 for a coyote gun. I agree with you on the 6mm 55 grain bullets. They are the way to go. I just think the .223 is a little light for coyotes, and limits the range you can take them at. The .243 should give an extra 100 yards over the .223. Are you sure 55 grain 6mm ballistic tips will exit a coyote?
What do you think of the Remington SPS? How's the out-of-the-box accuracy?

I would think that a 55 gr bullet from a 6mm would be much less effective at long range than a 22 cal 55gr. It should loose volicity faster and wind drift much worse. For long range work I'd think a 75 gr would be far better. But for the original question I have a 111 in 270 w/o accu trigger and it shoots sub moa with good ammo,( it's not ugly just a little different) When I see that barrel nut on a rifle I am confident it's a real shooter, and the owner didn't get ripped at the checkout counter!

I'm king of torn between the .223 and the .243 for a coyote gun. I agree with you on the 6mm 55 grain bullets. They are the way to go. I just think the .223 is a little light for coyotes, and limits the range you can take them at. The .243 should give an extra 100 yards over the .223. Are you sure 55 grain 6mm ballistic tips will exit a coyote?
What do you think of the Remington SPS? How's the out-of-the-box accuracy?

Actually the 243 with the 55 grain noslers shoots as flat as a 22-250 and much flatter than the 223. Not only will they exit a coyote I've actually chopped them in half. A hit just in front of the hind quarters can cut them in two pieces.

I used to use 85 grainers for yote hunting, but the 55's not only shoot flatter but are much more destructive.

The new coyote gun is a 204 Ruger and it has low enough recoil to allow you to see your hits in the scope yet it will also shoot as flat as the 22-250.

As far as the 223 being to light for coyotes that's simply nonsense. I've seen loads of yotes shot at ranges to 350 yards that never took a step after being shot with a 223. Usully any body shot will kill them. I have seen a coyote run off after having a leg blown off with a 7mm Rem mag. There's lots of coyote hunters shooting very effectively with the 223. It's a fine round.

I have a friend whom was a federal game control agent for close to 20 years and he killed hundreds and hundreds of coyotes with a 222 Remington.

Here's the bottom line on coyote guns. Are you going to sell the pelts? If you are anything bigger than the 223 is going to tear big holes goin in and bigger holes going out.

Folks I know that harvest pelts use the 223 and 222, but the the favored gun was the 17 Remington and now is the 204 Ruger. Anything else and your going to be sewing up hides and the value of the sewed hides won't be as much as hides where the bullets do not exit.

I use Speer #1215 90gr. FMJ in the .243 for hunting fur bearers if I plan on keeping the pelt. They make small entrance and exit holes, but you must also make a good shot. If I were hunting them as varmints I would use the Barnes 58gr. VLC they shoot vary well in my rifle and are flat shooting.

I've got a Savage 110 in .243 and I love it. Accuracy out of the box for a Savage is no problem.

I use Speer #1215 90gr. FMJ in the .243 for hunting fur bearers if I plan on keeping the pelt. They make small entrance and exit holes, but you must also make a good shot. If I were hunting them as varmints I would use the Barnes 58gr. VLC they shoot vary well in my rifle and are flat shooting.

Some of the folks around here tried the Speer fmj's and your right about the intrance and exit holes. Only problem they had was once in a while they got a run off from what seemed like a good hit much past 200 yards. I sure like the 243 and kind of felt graduated from my 22-250 when I went move to the 24 caliber. Used to shoot nothing but 85 grain hollow points til I found how accurate the little 55 grain Noslers were.

I don't harvest as the price of pelts dropped out the bottom several years ago. So they just lie where they drop. I havn't checked this year, but I do see an ad in the paper where a fella is advertising for hides. I might have to check on what he's paying.

What's this cartrige that Remington is bringing out ,I think it's called the 17 Fireball . Supposed to shoot as flat as the 22-250 and with 45% less powder, might be worth checking out!