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mthaler
01-03-2007, 12:40 PM
I need advise on choosing a caliber for a rifle I am ordering . I dont have much experiance with rifles, But I do love collecting them. Can somone tell me the difference between a 45-70 and a 45-110 round. the Rifle is a 1874 Shilo Sharps Buffalo Rifle " The Quigley ". I just dont know what the pros and cons are to the different rounds. HELP!!!!!


www.shilohrifle.com

jackfish
01-03-2007, 01:12 PM
I need advise on choosing a caliber for a rifle I am ordering . I dont have much experiance with rifles, But I do love collecting them. Can somone tell me the difference between a 45-70 and a 45-110 round. the Rifle is a 1874 Shilo Sharps Buffalo Rifle. I just dont know what the pros and cons are to the different rounds. HELP!!!!!The 45-70 holds 70 grains of blackpowder while the 45-110 holds 110 grains of black powder.

jackfish
01-03-2007, 01:14 PM
I have ordered a new rifle but I am unsure which round to get it chambered in. I dont know very much about the different loads. could I get some advice between the two? The rifle is a 1874 Shilo Sharps Bufflo Rifle " The Quigley " any comments would be apriciated.45-70 brass is easier to come by and cheaper too.

mthaler
01-03-2007, 01:21 PM
Thanks but what are the performance differences. are there any drawbacks to either load?

faucettb
01-03-2007, 01:33 PM
Please don't double post

faucettb
01-03-2007, 01:39 PM
If you've already ordered it why would you need to decide which caliber to order?

Ranch Dog
01-03-2007, 04:35 PM
mthaler...

Welcome to the forum but please do not double or triple post. I've merged all three threads into this one.

ribbonstone
01-03-2007, 05:49 PM
45-70 brass is easier to come by and cheaper too.

If you intend to shoot mostly smokeless, then 45-70. If you intend to shoot black powder and don't mind the expensive of the long cases, the 45-110.

You can get smokeless loads to work in the long 45-110, but it's a fine blance between acceptable pressure and decent powder burning/accuracy. The shorter 45/70 is a bit easier to get that balance right.

mthaler
01-04-2007, 08:31 AM
If you've already ordered it why would you need to decide which caliber to order?

There is a 18 month waiting list for this rifle. I am on the list and have given a deposit. I have about 12 months to make any changes.

www.shilohrifle.com

Hazcat
01-04-2007, 08:47 AM
There is a 18 month waiting list for this rifle. I am on the list and have given a deposit. I have about 12 months to make any changes.Just went to their site. Beautiful gun!

My .02 worth? I like the modern easy to come by 45-70. Lots of reload data if you want or lots of off-the-shelf stuff.

Seems more versatile to me.

mthaler
01-04-2007, 08:53 AM
Just went to their site. Beautiful gun!

My .02 worth? I like the modern easy to come by 45-70. Lots of reload data if you want or lots of off-the-shelf stuff.

Seems more versatile to me.
Thanks, The quality of the gun and the reputation of the manufacturer are excelent. I dont get to shoot as much as I would like so the cost of ammo is not a big factor in my decision. I just have a great appriciation for quality made guns and I have wanted this rifle for a long time. I told them when I ordered it to make it chambered for the 45-70 because of availability of ammo. I have no clue how to reload so I will have to buy my ammo. Thank you for your imput I am mainly interested in collector value.

ggeilman
01-05-2007, 07:36 PM
Out of curiosity, what is the advantage of a $3000+ Shilo vs a Davide Pedersoli which is available all the way up to a 45-120?

http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ArmiCategoria.aspx?CategoriaId=260&lang=en

faucettb
01-07-2007, 11:43 PM
There is a 18 month waiting list for this rifle. I am on the list and have given a deposit. I have about 12 months to make any changes.

www.shilohrifle.com

I checked out their site and they do make beautiful rifles. I've never been a collector so am mostly interested in shooters. I do however appreciate craftsmanship and this little Montana company seems to be doing that by the car loads.

If your going to shoot this piece of art and don't reload you can still get a custom loader to do the 45-110 black powder loads, though if I were going to spend that kind of money on a collector gun I'd park the rifle and leave it unfired. It'll keep and increase in value much more unfired. I'd pick up one of the pedersoli guns as a shooter and companion piece. You'll be money ahead in the future.

mthaler
01-10-2007, 07:57 AM
I checked out their site and they do make beautiful rifles. I've never been a collector so am mostly interested in shooters. I do however appreciate craftsmanship and this little Montana company seems to be doing that by the car loads.

If your going to shoot this piece of art and don't reload you can still get a custom loader to do the 45-110 black powder loads, though if I were going to spend that kind of money on a collector gun I'd park the rifle and leave it unfired. It'll keep and increase in value much more unfired. I'd pick up one of the pedersoli guns as a shooter and companion piece. You'll be money ahead in the future.


Thanks for the reply. I tend to agree with you I would have a hard time chambering a round in this rifle. I do belive I will take your advise. I was mainly interested in learning more about the difference in loads and what would be the most desirable as a collectors rifle.