I took my Savage 111F to the range today (finally), and Im having real problems shooting it.

The problem is I can't get my eyes behind the sights. Buy the time I have my eye where it needs to be to align the sights the stock is against my cheekbone/eye socket!

Is it possible to get a stock with more drop (I think that's what it's called)? Or is there another way to fix this?

Thanks

If you are using a bench, your on your own. If you are shooting offhand it is a fluid motion of shouldering the rifle, and lowering your head. Your thumb is a good gauge as to where the rifle should hit on your shoulder. In traditional bow hunting it is your kissing point. Same principal, a natural pointing of all the parts with key contact points. On a bench only your body moves, it does not help your shooting form. JP

As you may have guessed, your comb height is set for a scope. A mid-priced ($200) scope may be cheaper than a stock.

Bye
Jack

As you may have guessed, your comb height is set for a scope. A mid-priced ($200) scope may be cheaper than a stock.

Bye
Jack
Yeah, that's what I figured. I looked around just to get a 30-06 with sights as I'm just not a glass man. Otherwise I would have probably purchased the Stevens 200 (though I love that accutrigger).

I don't want to shoot sub MOA at 100 yds I just want to hit what I'm aiming at for a killing shot.

Have any ideas where to look for a stock?

Not in your neck of the woods. Old Bob has listed some suppliers.

Bye
Jack

Bob recommended Boyd's or Richards to me once. I actually ended up keeping the synthetic stock that came on the rifle but when and if I decide to switch I am going to use one of those two. I believe Boyd's makes the laminate stocks that come on some Remingtons and they are super nice in my opinion. I would make sure I double check and not end up ordering a stock that doesn't fix your problem.

www.rifle-stocks.com

www.boydboys.com

These are a couple of the aftermarket stock makers.

www.rifle-stocks.com

www.boydboys.com

These are a couple of the aftermarket stock makers.
Thanks all!

Problem is most bolt action stocks made today are not made for open sight shooters. Even the aftermarket stocks are designed more for scope shooters.

My suggestion is to look at some of the red dot sights available. These are not scopes, but force you to put your head in a more comfortable position to shoot stocks that are not optimum for open sights. They are also very accurate if you get a dot in the two minute range.

Problem is most bolt action stocks made today are not made for open sight shooters. Even the aftermarket stocks are designed more for scope shooters.

My suggestion is to look at some of the red dot sights available. These are not scopes, but force you to put your head in a more comfortable position to shoot stocks that are not optimum for open sights. They are also very accurate if you get a dot in the two minute range.
If I have to I'll look into this but I'm hoping fot another solution.

I have a restocked (still have old stock in basement), Remington Model 722 with a similar problem. With a scope it fits me perfectly when I'm wearing heavy clothes, however the iron sights are not useable. The scope mounts are the old style Weaver "Flip Mounts" designed to move the scope to the side in order to use the iron sights. The rear iron sight also flips down so as not to interfere with using the scope.

When hunting eastern woods, I like a low power variable in good weather and iron sights in rain. I would like to be able to use both scope and iron sights interchangeably as I can with an old Winchester Model 70 I have (with an original stock) with a similar scope mount setup. I've found the zero after flipping and returning is well within the precision capability of these rifles. I'm considering having the Rem 722 rebarrelied from it's current .300 Savage 24 inch barrel to a .338 Federal or .358 Winchester 20 inch barrel to increase its versatility (better maneuverability in thick woods and short range elk capability).

Are higher iron sight bases available that might solve the problem?

I have a restocked (still have old stock in basement), Remington Model 722 with a similar problem. With a scope it fits me perfectly when I'm wearing heavy clothes, however the iron sights are not useable. The scope mounts are the old style Weaver "Flip Mounts" designed to move the scope to the side in order to use the iron sights. The rear iron sight also flips down so as not to interfere with using the scope.

When hunting eastern woods, I like a low power variable in good weather and iron sights in rain. I would like to be able to use both scope and iron sights interchangeably as I can with an old Winchester Model 70 I have (with an original stock) with a similar scope mount setup. I've found the zero after flipping and returning is well within the precision capability of these rifles. I'm considering having the Rem 722 rebarrelied from it's current .300 Savage 24 inch barrel to a .338 Federal or .358 Winchester 20 inch barrel to increase its versatility (better maneuverability in thick woods and short range elk capability).

Are higher iron sight bases available that might solve the problem?

Hi Irv,

I don't know about the sight bases either. If we both keep looking maybe we'll find an answer. If I come up with something I will post it here. I would appreciate it if you did the same.

Hazcat